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  1. Published on: 18/04/2019 12:40 PMReported by: roving-eye
    Police are welcoming the sentencing of two men to prison for affray following an incident in Southport last year.At around 10.20pm on Wednesday 30 May 2018, a man was chased into a shop on Bispham Road by two men, one of whom was in possession of a knife. The victim was assaulted, receiving knife wounds to his shoulder and buttock. He attended hospital for treatment to non life-threatening wounds but did not assist police.
    Following extensive CCTV and forensic enquiries, 24-year-old Kallum Rimmer of no fixed abode and 23-year-old Jack Wall of Bispham Road, Southport were charged and pleaded guilty at court.
    At Liverpool Crown Court yesterday (Wednesday 17 April), Wall was sentenced to two years and four months in prison for affray and possession of an offensive weapon. Rimmer was sentenced to two years in prison for affray.
    Speaking after their sentencing, Detective Inspector Tony O’Brien: “This was a shocking, targeted attack, which will see two dangerous people removed from the streets of Southport. To witness this incident would have been upsetting, and my reassurance to the residents of Southport is that we will continue to do all we can to find those responsible for any threats and violence and put them before the courts.
    “If you provide information on where weapons are being used or stored, we will keep taking positive action. The use of knives has no place in our communities, and we work hard alongside our partners to target those who recklessly endanger others.”
    Anyone with information on knife crime is asked to contact @MerPolCC, call 101 or the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously, on 0800 555 111. You can also use their online form at: https://crimestoppers-uk.org/give-in...ve-information.
     
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  3. jonnybgood says:18/04/2019 01:21 PM
    Some of these sentences are a joke,as the imprisonments are NOT long enough,they will be out in half their sentences,anyone carrying a knife should be given somewhere between 5-10 year stretches,without parole,as there WAS definite intent to go out and endanger a persons life carrying a weapon like that.

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  5. Coastal99 says:18/04/2019 01:26 PM
    "no fixed abode" = my family don't want people to know I lived with them

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  7. jonnybgood says:18/04/2019 01:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Coastal99 View Post
    "no fixed abode" = my family don't want people to know I lived with them

    He has now though,living in her majestys HMP's,and hopefully they are getting humped daily by the other inmates in there.....

  8. cotton man says:18/04/2019 05:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnybgood View Post
    He has now though,living in her majestys HMP's,and hopefully they are getting humped daily by the other inmates in there.....
    The reprobate they attacked is just as bad. The sentences should be full term not time off for good behaviour. Time added for bad behaviour would be a better deterrent.

  9. Alikado says:18/04/2019 06:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cotton man View Post
    The reprobate they attacked is just as bad. The sentences should be full term not time off for good behaviour. Time added for bad behaviour would be a better deterrent.
    They do get extra time for bad behaviour hence the story that was in the press a week or two ago about the man asking why his son was still in prison after 12 years for pinching a bike!

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  11. cotton man says:18/04/2019 07:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    They do get extra time for bad behaviour hence the story that was in the press a week or two ago about the man asking why his son was still in prison after 12 years for pinching a bike!
    Wayne Bell was sentenced to a PPI (Public Protection Sentence) which means he has to convince the parole board that he is safe to release. This has nothing to with release on license for good behaviour. It is a totally different type of sentence, and in my opinion unfair.
    Last edited by cotton man; 18/04/2019 at 07:45 PM.

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  13. donkey22 says:19/04/2019 02:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by cotton man View Post
    Wayne Bell was sentenced to a PPI (Public Protection Sentence) which means he has to convince the parole board that he is safe to release. This has nothing to with release on license for good behaviour. It is a totally different type of sentence, and in my opinion unfair.
    It shows just how broken the penal system in this country is. We should be rehabilitating offenders, not placing them in a system of failure which lets down victims as well as offenders. And it’s worth pointing out that IPP sentences (imprisonments for Public Protection)where abolished in 2012 with the then Home Secretary David Blunket who introduced them stating that he ‘regretted’ the ‘injustices’ they where responsible for. Despite this, there are still over 2000 prisoners serving a IPP.
    And I assume, (but not 100% sure) had the victim in this news article made a complaint, and assisted the police in their enquires, the two offenders would have been charged with a much more serious offence, which would have resulted in a harsher sentence than the one handed out.
    Last edited by donkey22; 19/04/2019 at 03:11 AM.

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  15. PENTHOUSEJOE says:21/04/2019 08:12 PM
    The pip sentences were brought out for the 3 time losers.America started it we followed since 1996. This meant any one who had committed 2 previous serious offences with jail sentences.Say for instance there last jail sentence was for 6 years,then they reoffended not for a petty offence but a serious offence. They would be given a sentence a bit longer. But instead of a release date with good behaviour as usual. They would have to do there full sentence then apply for a parole board hearing. The parole board would then interview them on why they are no longer a risk and the prisoner would have to put forward the reason he was no longer a risk of reoffending. If the prisoner could not put forward a release plan then he wasn’t let out. Unfortunately the prisons are full of nut cases as there has been a cut back on mental health. This is part of the reason jails still have loads off ppl prisoners. As it is designed for this purpose As Michael Cain said “ Not a lot of people know that”



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