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  1. Published on: 16/05/2019 02:55 PMReported by: roving-eye


    Officers in Southport, yesterday, (Wednesday, 15 May) arrested three people and seized a quantity of Class A and B drugs and what is believed to be stolen goods, following the search of a car and property in Southport.
    A 40-year-old woman from Southport was arrested on suspicion of possession with intent to supply Class A and B drugs and handling stolen goods.
    A 52-year-old man from Southport was arrested on suspicion of possession with intent to supply Class A drugs
    A 37-year-old man from Birkdale was arrested on suspicion of possession with intent to supply Class A and B drugs and possession of a controlled drug.
    All three have been released under investigation, while enquiries continue.
    During the search of the car and property, officers recovered what is thought to be crack cocaine, heroin and cocaine alongside cannabis and prescription medication, with an estimated street value of £10,000.
    Officer’s also recovered cash, mobile phones, bank cards and large quantities of household items, such as washing powder, coffee and wine, all thought to have been stolen.
    Sergeant David Uren said: “This is just another example of our commitment to making our streets safer for our communities by removing drugs and those involved in their supply from our streets.
    “We are relentless in our pursuit if those suspected of an involvement in serious and organised crime and will continue to target those who disrupt the day-to-day lives of decent, law abiding members of the public.
    “We hope these latest arrests and seizures show that we are committed to tackling drugs supply in their area and would ask anyone who has any information about drug dealing in their area or any concerns about those who are vulnerable and being exploited through the illegal trade of drugs, to contact @MerPolCC, call 101 or contact @CrimestoppersUK anonymously on 0800 555 111, so we can take action as we have done here.”

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  3. fifth column says:16/05/2019 05:19 PM
    "All three have been released under investigation, while enquiries continue."

    Get yourselves off home and sort yourselves out, in case you get to do a bit of time.

    So,............ back out on the streets, able to direct operations, make arrangements for their " possible " absence, organise replacements.

    It's a Joke!!Theyve been caught with the evidence.

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  5. donkey22 says:16/05/2019 06:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by fifth column View Post
    "All three have been released under investigation, while enquiries continue."

    Get yourselves off home and sort yourselves out, in case you get to do a bit of time.

    So,............ back out on the streets, able to direct operations, make arrangements for their " possible " absence, organise replacements.

    It's a Joke!!Theyve been caught with the evidence.
    It’s only victimless drug dealing. They would have been remanded if they posed any risk to the public and it’s hardly crime of the century. The war on drugs will never be won. When will they learn.
    Last edited by donkey22; 16/05/2019 at 07:03 PM.

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  7. Sap33 says:16/05/2019 09:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    It’s only victimless drug dealing. They would have been remanded if they posed any risk to the public and it’s hardly crime of the century. The war on drugs will never be won. When will they learn.
    A good friend is Police and I asked him for his thoughts on whether drugs should or shouldn’t be legalised and the resources used elsewhere.

    His take on it is that it’s not a fight against drugs, but it’s a fight against organised crime. As it stands, if they’re caught with drugs, they commit an offence. Legalise things and these criminals will carry on exactly where they left off, but it wil be more difficult to get evidence against them.

    (As for victimless, unfortunately that’s often not the case. The bloke killed with a crossbow in Bootle last week was involved in drugs supply and was due for sentence, had he not met his demise!)

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  9. donkey22 says:16/05/2019 11:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sap33 View Post
    A good friend is Police and I asked him for his thoughts on whether drugs should or shouldn’t be legalised and the resources used elsewhere.

    His take on it is that it’s not a fight against drugs, but it’s a fight against organised crime. As it stands, if they’re caught with drugs, they commit an offence. Legalise things and these criminals will carry on exactly where they left off, but it wil be more difficult to get evidence against them.

    (As for victimless, unfortunately that’s often not the case. The bloke killed with a crossbow in Bootle last week was involved in drugs supply and was due for sentence, had he not met his demise!)
    Surely decriminalisation removes the criminal element? The criminals will just turn their attention elsewhere. I don’t understand what you mean by ‘these criminals will carry on exactly where they left off’. Left off from where?

  10. Sap33 says:17/05/2019 07:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Surely decriminalisation removes the criminal element? The criminals will just turn their attention elsewhere. I don’t understand what you mean by ‘these criminals will carry on exactly where they left off’. Left off from where?
    According to my mate, these criminals will trade in whatever brings in cash (Tobacco, knock off alcohol, etc) as well as controlled drugs. If they’re caught with a legal commodity, eg tobacco, the most they’re likely to get is a fine or at most a very short sentence. If they get caught with the controlled drugs, they’re more likely to get a more substantial sentence.

    As for carrying on where they left off, if the controlled drugs are decriminalised, the criminals aren’t suddenly going to become legitimate tax paying business men, all they’ll do is carry on doing what they’re doing, but as they’re selling a ‘legal’ product. It will make it harder to get a prosecution.

  11. gazaprop says:17/05/2019 10:51 AM
    I don't get this concept of 'victimless drug dealing' - how so?

    If it's cannabis then it's hardly likely to have been grown out in the open and taken to market. Therefore there will have been the illegal extraction of electricity as a starter.
    Given that these 'farms' are jerry rigged to the supply, there would be every possibility that neighbouring properties, and their occupants, would be put at risk from fire and or electrocution.

    Arguments can be had about it's effect, or not, on an individuals mental health which then leads to extra pressures on an already stretched health service.
    Similarly, arguments can be had about it being a gateway drug, or not, and the criminality which inevitably follows.

    If it's class A stuff then criminality is certainly involved somewhere along the line - whether it's petty theft and burglary to fund the purchase or the nasty organised crime gangs involved in it's importation.

    Whatever the substance somewhere along the line someone gets hurt or - has their life opportunities irreversibly affected. Victimless - certainly not.

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  13. roughjustice says:17/05/2019 01:57 PM
    There is a serious point being missed here...

    Drug misuse and dealing is not VICTIMLESS...

    How many posts do we all see about stolen bikes?...Is there a massive group of fit and healthy thieves in Southport out riding mountain bikes in their droves?

    How many posts do we see about stolen power tools?...Are burglars all DIY nuts?

    How many expensive cars are stolen annually by breaking into houses to get the keys? Are there thousands of lowlife hoody scrotes cruising the streets in Mercs?

    No it's all high value easy to sell goods.....right down to shop ifting and muggings.

    80% of the time to buy drugs to satiate an addiction or buy food etc because their 'income' bought their drugs...

    The very people in our society most likely to be hedonists, bereft of self control and morals enough to use 'recreational drugs' and develop expensive 'habits' are USUALLY the same ones least likely to earn a six figure salary to support that habit..

    Even if such drugs where legalised, all that would happen is they would use more, work/earn less until some bright f&&king Liberal idiot decides 'it's an illness' and they all get it on free prescriptions.
    So then the tax payer/NHS can support people getting wasted, off their heads and even more drug induced psychotics will be walking the streets even more paranoid carrying knives and kicking off with 'what you looking at' mentalities.
    The NHS is awash with lowlife scrounging drug addict scum already.....and if that sounds harsh if you have a loved one in dire need of expensive cancer medicines or a life saving op ask yourself how much methadone, and amputations due to Heroin addiction cost the NHS..how may child incubators are not bought because someone decided it was 'harmess' to get high?

    Alcohol has been around so long we have had to accept it and have learnt to cope with its 'abuse', luckily it started so long ago the 'excesses culture' of the current world wasn't around initially so controls and social acceptance grew at the same rate but it still causes a massive amount of problems in its own way..

    Same with smoking...

    So why, just because those are legal should we make the same mistakes again and let ANOTHER Genie out of the bottle we can't put back in...?

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  15. EvilCapitalist says:17/05/2019 03:13 PM
    Going by your in depth knowledge it sounds like you have tried them all..LOL,I think that's a bit bigoted and extreme,,The drugs trade is a problem without a doubt and prohibition has caused more problems than it has solved,There is certainly a very good argument for separating them and changing the law on some of them.As an example Pot ,Not many people went to university and did not smoke a joint ,So are you saying our professionals are all electricity bike stealing gangsters,Because you people are part of the problem and not the solution with your extreme views
    Quote Originally Posted by roughjustice View Post
    There is a serious point being missed here...

    Drug misuse and dealing is not VICTIMLESS...

    How many posts do we all see about stolen bikes?...Is there a massive group of fit and healthy thieves in Southport out riding mountain bikes in their droves?

    How many posts do we see about stolen power tools?...Are burglars all DIY nuts?

    How many expensive cars are stolen annually by breaking into houses to get the keys? Are there thousands of lowlife hoody scrotes cruising the streets in Mercs?

    No it's all high value easy to sell goods.....right down to shop ifting and muggings.

    80% of the time to buy drugs to satiate an addiction or buy food etc because their 'income' bought their drugs...

    The very people in our society most likely to be hedonists, bereft of self control and morals enough to use 'recreational drugs' and develop expensive 'habits' are USUALLY the same ones least likely to earn a six figure salary to support that habit..

    Even if such drugs where legalised, all that would happen is they would use more, work/earn less until some bright f&&king Liberal idiot decides 'it's an illness' and they all get it on free prescriptions.
    So then the tax payer/NHS can support people getting wasted, off their heads and even more drug induced psychotics will be walking the streets even more paranoid carrying knives and kicking off with 'what you looking at' mentalities.
    The NHS is awash with lowlife scrounging drug addict scum already.....and if that sounds harsh if you have a loved one in dire need of expensive cancer medicines or a life saving op ask yourself how much methadone, and amputations due to Heroin addiction cost the NHS..how may child incubators are not bought because someone decided it was 'harmess' to get high?

    Alcohol has been around so long we have had to accept it and have learnt to cope with its 'abuse', luckily it started so long ago the 'excesses culture' of the current world wasn't around initially so controls and social acceptance grew at the same rate but it still causes a massive amount of problems in its own way..

    Same with smoking...

    So why, just because those are legal should we make the same mistakes again and let ANOTHER Genie out of the bottle we can't put back in...?

  • gazaprop says:17/05/2019 03:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by EvilCapitalist View Post
    Going by your in depth knowledge it sounds like you have tried them all..LOL,I think that's a bit bigoted and extreme,,The drugs trade is a problem without a doubt and prohibition has caused more problems than it has solved,There is certainly a very good argument for separating them and changing the law on some of them.As an example Pot ,Not many people went to university and did not smoke a joint ,So are you saying our professionals are all electricity bike stealing gangsters,Because you people are part of the problem and not the solution with your extreme views
    An over simplistic synopsis of the post and the usual tired old cop out - it's someone else' fault.

    I've worked with offenders and, if I can guarantee one thing it's this - offer a chance to put the blame on someone or something other than their own dishonesty and they leap at it.
    Then they laugh quietly behind your back at how gullible everyone is to believe how sorry and reformed they are.
    Some are genuine but not many.

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  • roughjustice says:17/05/2019 09:31 PM
    EVILCAPITALIST..

    Why is it that faced with a differing view people with a weak arguement resort straight away to insults....

    I am a Bigot am I ?..you can tell that from one post...

    I'll tell you what I am, I am a 50+ man who has never felt the need to take illegal substances to get on with my life...

    I have dealt with more aggro and grief in my life than most yet it is still the case....

    So no I haven't tried them...

    What I have done is worked in a Cat A prison and been informed by it...

    I have also spent over 20 years investigating and trying to protect people from organised crime gangs (including stints in South America and Africa)...from class A/B to people trafficing, gun smuggling and child exploitation..

    So YES I know a bit about drug use and abuse without having done it...

    My wife is a nurse and sees first hand how much drug sbuse REALLY costs us...but it gets hidden because of 'confidentiallity'....

    I've never been a Politician either but I know a huge percentage are self serving and/or corrupt.

    And regards your 'college' referance...there is a world of differance witha bit of herbal 'woodstock' weed smoked in the early 70s and the genetically modified abused and forced Skunk etc that you can't walk through southport without being assualted by the smell of...

    How ironic...if you tried to sell genetically modified carrots in Tesco people would go beserk....

    There have been enough reports, independant and Home Office commissioned into the root csuses of crime and the effects of drug use on society....

    To dismiss the facts or accuse them of being 'manipulated' points more to the critic being a user themselves than my original post suggesting I am.

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  • EvilCapitalist says:19/05/2019 02:12 PM
    Not in a single place did i say,"it is someone else's fault,What i said was the steps taken so far have not worked ,So don't make things up they are your twisted words,Nor do i think it is victimless.
    Quote Originally Posted by gazaprop View Post
    An over simplistic synopsis of the post and the usual tired old cop out - it's someone else' fault.

    I've worked with offenders and, if I can guarantee one thing it's this - offer a chance to put the blame on someone or something other than their own dishonesty and they leap at it.
    Then they laugh quietly behind your back at how gullible everyone is to believe how sorry and reformed they are.
    Some are genuine but not many.

  • EvilCapitalist says:19/05/2019 02:20 PM
    Most the veg you buy have been genetically modified,Your argument is the same old weak one that has not worked,In fact its failed so you are a bigot and your misspelt post reinforces that even more.You are stuck in a time warp if your solution worked we would of never had the problem in the first place.
    Quote Originally Posted by roughjustice View Post
    EVILCAPITALIST.

    Why is it that faced with a differing view people with a weak arguement resort straight away to insults....

    I am a Bigot am I ?..you can tell that from one post...

    I'll tell you what I am, I am a 50+ man who has never felt the need to take illegal substances to get on with my life...

    I have dealt with more aggro and grief in my life than most yet it is still the case....

    So no I haven't tried them...

    What I have done is worked in a Cat A prison and been informed by it...

    I have also spent over 20 years investigating and trying to protect people from organised crime gangs (including stints in South America and Africa)...from class A/B to people trafficing, gun smuggling and child exploitation..

    So YES I know a bit about drug use and abuse without having done it...

    My wife is a nurse and sees first hand how much drug sbuse REALLY costs us...but it gets hidden because of 'confidentiallity'....

    I've never been a Politician either but I know a huge percentage are self serving and/or corrupt.

    And regards your 'college' referance...there is a world of differance witha bit of herbal 'woodstock' weed smoked in the early 70s and the genetically modified abused and forced Skunk etc that you can't walk through southport without being assualted by the smell of...

    How ironic...if you tried to sell genetically modified carrots in Tesco people would go beserk....

    There have been enough reports, independant and Home Office commissioned into the root csuses of crime and the effects of drug use on society....

    To dismiss the facts or accuse them of being 'manipulated' points more to the critic being a user themselves than my original post suggesting I am.

  • gazaprop says:19/05/2019 06:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by EvilCapitalist View Post
    Not in a single place did i say,"it is someone else's fault,What i said was the steps taken so far have not worked ,So don't make things up they are your twisted words,Nor do i think it is victimless.
    Yes you did.

  • EvilCapitalist says:20/05/2019 03:11 PM
    Read again then you uneducated moron,As usual you just made a fool of yourself
    Quote Originally Posted by gazaprop View Post
    Yes you did.



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