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Published on: 10/08/2020 10:29 AMReported by: roving-eye
We know that getting to Southport town centre for work, shopping or leisure is a priority for our community.
We need to make sure that town
centres are well connected to local communities by walking and cycling.We are helping people to get to and through the town centre by walking and cycling from the north and south of Southport. The route is made up
of streets and spaces which will be made more people friendly by making some changes. The route has been audited and we will be making changes to make it easier to walk along and this will include removing redundant signs, putting in dropped kerbs and tactile kerbs and working with environmental health to create an obstruction free route. The cycle route will be made by putting in separate cycle lanes, creating quieter streets by putting in modal filters or by creating Share with Care Spaces as described below. We are keen to engage with you to make the North South Route through Southport the best it can be.
Segregated Cycle Lanes
These provide a space for cycling which is separate from the road which vehicles would use. The separate cycle lanes will not block driveways to properties. People will not be able to park in the space where the separate cycle lanes are installed as this space is just for cycling.
Quiet Street
A quiet street is one where people will not be able to use the road as a through route by car. This is done by putting in a measure to manage traffic, called a modal filter, (usually near to a junction) in the road. For example, the modal filters may be one-way for people driving and buses (if on a bus route). Modal filters allow people to walk and cycle as they normally would and the street will be quieter because the through traffic is removed. This could mean that your driving route may change and you may have to take a different route to access your property.
Share with Care Space
This is an area that is shared with people walking and cycling and we will be encouraging people to take notice of the other people in this area.
Mixing Zone
A mixing zone allows a cyclist who wishes to turn right at a junction the opportunity to manoeuvre safely into the right turn lane by means of an advanced give-way for approaching vehicles.
The north / south route in Southport town centre will involve the following roads:Queens Road – through traffic will be restricted which will make the street quieter for people living along the street and make it better to walk and cycle along.Hoghton Street – Segregated cycle lanes on both sides of the street, which will remove parking along both sides and create a safe route for cycling. The bus stop and disabled parking bays will be retained. A Mixing Zone will also be introduced on Hoghton Street. Chapel Street, Tulketh Street and Wesley Street – Share with Care SpaceTalbot Street – (Eastbank Street to Portland Street) –Quiet Street, on street pay and display to be removed.Talbot Street / Eastbank Street junction – A temporary traffic management trial will be undertaken to prohibit the exit from Talbot street onto Eastbank Street. This will be in the form of a road closure across the exit lane only. Traffic will be advised of a no through route at the Portland street junction. Inbound from Eastbank Street into Talbot Street will not be affected and access into the Tesco Express will be maintained. Following a period of monitoring and review a Talbot Street / Eastbank Street junction signalised upgrade will be proposed for completion later in the year.Talbot Street – (Portland Street to Duke Street) – Quiet Street with on street parking possibly to be made limited waiting for a period during the day but not in the evening. This will discourage all day parking but allow residents and their visitors to park during the evening.Talbot Street – (Duke Street to Belmont Street) – Quiet street with on street parking possibly to be made limited waiting to discourage all day parking but allow residents and their visitors to park during the evening.
We appreciate that travel using public transport is difficult with social distancing restrictions and we hope to encourage walking and cycling as an alternative to car use by providing access routes to Southport town centre to link with other routes. We appreciate this is particularly important in that there are 17,660, 12 to 17-year olds living in Sefton and 28.5% (or 33,592) of households in Sefton do not have access to a car or van (2011). These measures will be monitored and adjusted if appropriatePlease tell us your views once the routes have gone in and we have finished our work on them. We may make changes to the way the route has been created based on what you tell us.All comments can be emailed to transport.planning@sefton.gov.uk
May as well close all the shops in the town centre as once again they're making it increasingly difficult to drive into Southport. They are forcing the car out of Southport.
Absolute madness.
Will the last person leaving please turn out the lights!
What a total waste of tax-payer money (British & European) As a regular cyclist these works are completely unnecessary and scheduling them will bring the town centre to its knees, Seftons contractors haven't even finished 'smoothing' the cycle path on the Coast Rd after three months!!
Looney left demonstrating why they're 'looney' yet again....
Brilliant news for walkers and cyclists of Southport. Well done Sefton.
Yes you’re quite right, brilliant news for walkers and cyclists. However, it’s a big two fat fingers to the retail businesses in Southport once again, who rely on shoppers coming into the town, in their cars, to purchase their goods. Perhaps you should remember that it’s these retailers that help to fill the coffers, so that you and other waste of space Councillors can get your snouts ever deeper into the trough.
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muddyboots says:10/08/2020 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by roving-eye
We know that getting to Southport town centre for work, shopping or leisure is a priority for our community.
We need to make sure that town
centres are well connected to local communities by walking and cycling.We are helping people to get to and through the town centre by walking and cycling from the north and south of Southport. The route is made up
of streets and spaces which will be made more people friendly by making some changes. The route has been audited and we will be making changes to make it easier to walk along and this will include removing redundant signs, putting in dropped kerbs and tactile kerbs and working with environmental health to create an obstruction free route. The cycle route will be made by putting in separate cycle lanes, creating quieter streets by putting in modal filters or by creating Share with Care Spaces as described below. We are keen to engage with you to make the North South Route through Southport the best it can be.
Segregated Cycle Lanes
These provide a space for cycling which is separate from the road which vehicles would use. The separate cycle lanes will not block driveways to properties. People will not be able to park in the space where the separate cycle lanes are installed as this space is just for cycling.
Quiet Street
A quiet street is one where people will not be able to use the road as a through route by car. This is done by putting in a measure to manage traffic, called a modal filter, (usually near to a junction) in the road. For example, the modal filters may be one-way for people driving and buses (if on a bus route). Modal filters allow people to walk and cycle as they normally would and the street will be quieter because the through traffic is removed. This could mean that your driving route may change and you may have to take a different route to access your property.
Share with Care Space
This is an area that is shared with people walking and cycling and we will be encouraging people to take notice of the other people in this area.
Mixing Zone
A mixing zone allows a cyclist who wishes to turn right at a junction the opportunity to manoeuvre safely into the right turn lane by means of an advanced give-way for approaching vehicles.
The north / south route in Southport town centre will involve the following roads:Queens Road – through traffic will be restricted which will make the street quieter for people living along the street and make it better to walk and cycle along.Hoghton Street – Segregated cycle lanes on both sides of the street, which will remove parking along both sides and create a safe route for cycling. The bus stop and disabled parking bays will be retained. A Mixing Zone will also be introduced on Hoghton Street. Chapel Street, Tulketh Street and Wesley Street – Share with Care SpaceTalbot Street – (Eastbank Street to Portland Street) –Quiet Street, on street pay and display to be removed.Talbot Street / Eastbank Street junction – A temporary traffic management trial will be undertaken to prohibit the exit from Talbot street onto Eastbank Street. This will be in the form of a road closure across the exit lane only. Traffic will be advised of a no through route at the Portland street junction. Inbound from Eastbank Street into Talbot Street will not be affected and access into the Tesco Express will be maintained. Following a period of monitoring and review a Talbot Street / Eastbank Street junction signalised upgrade will be proposed for completion later in the year.Talbot Street – (Portland Street to Duke Street) – Quiet Street with on street parking possibly to be made limited waiting for a period during the day but not in the evening. This will discourage all day parking but allow residents and their visitors to park during the evening.Talbot Street – (Duke Street to Belmont Street) – Quiet street with on street parking possibly to be made limited waiting to discourage all day parking but allow residents and their visitors to park during the evening.
We appreciate that travel using public transport is difficult with social distancing restrictions and we hope to encourage walking and cycling as an alternative to car use by providing access routes to Southport town centre to link with other routes. We appreciate this is particularly important in that there are 17,660, 12 to 17-year olds living in Sefton and 28.5% (or 33,592) of households in Sefton do not have access to a car or van (2011). These measures will be monitored and adjusted if appropriatePlease tell us your views once the routes have gone in and we have finished our work on them. We may make changes to the way the route has been created based on what you tell us.All comments can be emailed to transport.planning@sefton.gov.uk
final nail in the coffin for the shops.....these planners must live on another planet.....less cars...less money in the tills in the town....meanwhile out of town is booming....you dont do your big shop on a bike....or a bus...or on foot...
Don't tell me they are going to put £Millions into a scheme to get all the aged/ disabled/ or non cyclists onto a bike to go shopping just to appease the likes of the two idiots who "Like" this scheme. In reality you will see no one except the odd middle aged person riding in the cycle lanes, the morons will still be flying along the pavement and through red lights while millions of people are losing their jobs due to the financial implications of the pandemic and lack of custom.
I really do not see the point of these changes. If a cyclist cannot negotiate the existing road system, they should not be on the road at all. It has been a long time since any of the roads were really busy in Southport anyway. When I go out cycling I do not want the town areas, I cycle because I like the peace and quiet of the country side. This is a complete waste of money - yet again. Why not improve the cycling paths just outside of town - many of these are non existent or very poor. i.e. cycling to Liverpool, country cycle paths are good after South of Formby but rough going until you reach there. There should be a cycle bridge over the Ribble to miss the dual carriageway. No - looks like Sefton want Southport to change from being a popular seaside resort to a commuter area for Manchester and Liverpool - is that right?
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Sap33 says:10/08/2020 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by said
There should be a cycle bridge over the Ribble to miss the dual carriageway. No - looks like Sefton want Southport to change from being a popular seaside resort to a commuter area for Manchester and Liverpool - is that right?
The Ribble is not in Sefton, so I’m not sure why a bridge over it has anything to do with Sefton Council?
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Sap33 says:10/08/2020 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by justbecause
Yes you’re quite right, brilliant news for walkers and cyclists. However, it’s a big two fat fingers to the retail businesses in Southport once again, who rely on shoppers coming into the town, in their cars, to purchase their goods. Perhaps you should remember that it’s these retailers that help to fill the coffers, so that you and other waste of space Councillors can get your snouts ever deeper into the trough.
Unless you’re going to ram raid, you’ll have to get out of your car and walk, so you’ll benefit from these ideas!
The biggest problem for retail is nothing to do with a lack of parking, it’s more to do with the internet.
Just out of interest, is there anyone reading this who normally goes into town by car/bus who will now walk or cycle?
Where possible (shift dependant) I cycle into town to get the train. If I go into town with my family, we’ll drive, but we’ll get out of the car and walk around. With an 8 year old with no fear, these proposals will make trips in a less stressful experience for me! (And probably better for the local barbers as I won’t be loosing my hair!)
High street retail across the whole of the UK is struggling and not to do with parking! (The Trafford Centre has 12500 spaces and it’s owners are facing bankruptcy!)
More and more of us are shopping on line or at the likes of Tesco and other superstores, which couldn’t fit on any high street. If things don’t change, what there is left will close, Cafes and coffee shops seem to be doing well as people are going into town to socialise, rather than shop. I’m no economist (and not a councillor before anyone asks!) but it seems to me that Southport needs to evolve or it will just become a dormitory town for the nearby cities. Improving access for walkers and cyclists may attract people in.
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