Originally Posted by said

One of the London Papers mentioned that a fire engine was needed in a road which had barriers for cycle lanes. Residents cars were parked on either side of the road. The fire engine got stuck between the barriers and had to walk down that road.

It appears the plan might be to clog up all the roads to encourage people to ride bikes - don't you think?

As the road is open to buses, and with cycle lanes either side restricting parking, I don't think there's any likelihood of a Fire engine getting stuck here!

Originally Posted by susanb

Queens Road from Manchester Road to Alexandra Road has double yellow line on both sides. Albert Road from the roundabout to Alexandra Road only has double yellow lines down one side and car parking, on the other side. This is the main route with Council signs to Lord St. It is a bus route and large delivery lorries use it . When they meet the road becomes a single track. It will be twice as busy now that Queens Road is closed.

Do any of the Council employees come to Southport and see the problems?

Queens Road from Manchester Road to Alexandra Road is narrower than Albert Road, so encouraging cyclists to use this route should remove them from Albert Road, to hopefully keep traffic moving easier. Cars and buses can still travel along Queens Road towards Manchester Road though, so it's not closed.
The stretch of Albert Road from Alexandra Road to the roundabout is very narrow, even without cars parked, but then, when it was built, traffic wasn't a problem. As you rightly say that it's a bus route and a delivery route into town. It would make sense that this should be double yellows each side, but I can imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here if that was done!

Originally Posted by donkey22

wrong!

No, I'm not wrong! A matrrial change to a residential requires notice to residents and public consultation.
I've grown accustomed to your and your supporters with your facist left wing impositions. You do not represent the cyclists of this town and you do not represent me and my cycling interests. These changes are mindlessly stupid and unwarranted!

Originally Posted by SteveandLois

What IF someone has ordered a Hackney or Private hire vehicle,how are they going to be able to pick these customers up,if it is only Buses and cyclists that are allowed on these routes ? There are quite a few Nursing homes,and a lot of elderly residents living down there,how are these staff or residents now going to be dropped off, or picked up ?......... Just glad that I don't now drive as a Private Hire anymore,as I have recently decided to give up doing so,after 30 yrs of doing the job,and the way that the roads have changed recently,thank goodness to be out of the job...

Easily! It's only the junction at Manchester Road/Queens Road that's no entry, so access can be made by Hackney/Private Hire etc through Hawkshead Street, or Alexandra Road.

Given the 'no entry' sign has now been removed I suggest the Council has checked the legal position - you can't change the class of a highway without consultation..... Those of us who are 'proper' cyclists in this town await the consultation. As ever you and your kind do not wish to face any public consultation and always subvert any attempt to introduce transparency! My statement still stands, your views do not represent the cyclists of Southport........

Originally Posted by Tallboy

Given the 'no entry' sign has now been removed I suggest the Council has checked the legal position - you can't change the class of a highway without consultation.....

I found this on the Champion website:-

http://https://www.champnews.com/sto...N4_ART_1707599


There's mention how the Council have carried out consultation, (although not in their usual way, whatever that means?), but says it was rushed through due to the time scales involved.

Originally Posted by dexie

Now are Carers, District Nurses and Doctors cars to attend patients in their home or in nursing homes exempt. Or do the patients have to be denied treatment.

The road isn't inaccessible, so no one is being denied anything.... ffs get a life. MOAN MOAN MOAN

My favourite thing about this scheme is that it has stirred up the all the fat purple-faced old men who never drive down there anyway.