The No Entry sign that was placed at the junction of Queens Road and Manchester Road has vanished. The sign was placed there on Friday meaning that people who live on Queens Road would face a detour to get home in their vehicles.

Should there not be any consultation before the morons start closing roads and catering for boozers being able to sit in the road or has Pnp found an equally idiotic fool on the council who's hear he can whisper sweet nothings into and brainwash him. Perhaps he may be amiable to allowing him to lick his rectum too.

Originally Posted by Little Londoner

Should there not be any consultation before the morons start closing roads and catering for boozers being able to sit in the road or has Pnp found an equally idiotic fool on the council who's hear he can whisper sweet nothings into and brainwash him. Perhaps he may be amiable to allowing him to lick his rectum too.

'Catering for boozers being able to sit in the road' is to do with local businesses being able to operate and stay open rather than having to close forever.

(I also think you mean 'ear' rather than 'hear', perhaps grammar is another topic we can discuss while you're showing me what a good driver you are?)

Remove the sign and if there is an accident it is on your conscience.

No entry sign at Talbot/Belmont also gone.
Cycle lanes on both sides so space to operate two-way is reduced.
Also cars parked in the cycle lanes.

Originally Posted by bensherman

No entry sign at Talbot/Belmont also gone.
Cycle lanes on both sides so space to operate two-way is reduced.
Also cars parked in the cycle lanes.

Any idea when the scheme goes live?

Have they done a test fit and then removed them? In the past, I've seen speed limit signs fitted and then taped or painted over until the restrictions go live.

What a load of rubbish, Queens Road has been 2 way for decades, why change it now for a few cyclists. And when winter comes there will be even less of them. So why inconvenience the many for the sake of a very few. Government/Council gone mad.

Originally Posted by Sap33

'Catering for boozers being able to sit in the road' is to do with local businesses being able to operate and stay open rather than having to close forever.

(I also think you mean 'ear' rather than 'hear', perhaps grammar is another topic we can discuss while you're showing me what a good driver you are?)

Yes I did, how silly of me feeding pedants.

Well there are plenty of businesses on Lord St selling food and drink perhaps they should spread across the road also Liverpool Rd Birkdale and Ainsdale Station Rd. What a way to entice custom by taking away parking for visitors/shoppers/diners.

Nothing wrong with being a good driver it allows you to be able to avoid the idiots who seem to have a monopoly on the use of our roads (that is the ones that aren't changed at the drop of a hat without consultation).

Originally Posted by Little Londoner

Yes I did, how silly of me feeding pedants.

Well there are plenty of businesses on Lord St selling food and drink perhaps they should spread across the road also Liverpool Rd Birkdale and Ainsdale Station Rd. What a way to entice custom by taking away parking for visitors/shoppers/diners.

Nothing wrong with being a good driver it allows you to be able to avoid the idiots who seem to have a monopoly on the use of our roads (that is the ones that aren't changed at the drop of a hat without consultation).

To really be a good driver, perhaps you might take your blinkers off and not let the red mist descend. A lot of problems that I’ve found over the years, whilst dealing with drivers is their arrogance of how good they really think they are and how everything is the fault of others, a theme which seems to crop up on many of your posts.

I seem to remember you posting a while back how if I was to go for a drive with you, I’d realise what a crap driver I am. I posted up my qualifications and I’m still waiting on this demonstration. (But obviously not holding my breath!)

Feel free to contact me via the message system and we can do a mutual driving demonstration. I’ll even treat you to a coffee at one of these local businesses who are struggling to survive.

Originally Posted by Sap33

To really be a good driver, perhaps you might take your blinkers off and not let the red mist descend. A lot of problems that I’ve found over the years, whilst dealing with drivers is their arrogance of how good they really think they are and how everything is the fault of others, a theme which seems to crop up on many of your posts.

I seem to remember you posting a while back how if I was to go for a drive with you, I’d realise what a crap driver I am. I posted up my qualifications and I’m still waiting on this demonstration. (But obviously not holding my breath!)

Feel free to contact me via the message system and we can do a mutual driving demonstration. I’ll even treat you to a coffee at one of these local businesses who are struggling to survive.

I travel the road between Croston and Chorley almost daily, both in a car and a HGV. The road is very popular with cyclists and the standard of 'cycling proficiency' is frankly appalling.
I've lost count of the number of potentially serious collisions I've had to avoid, due entirely to the stupidity of the cyclist/s.

Favourite stupid acts include - adjusting the fit of the ridiculous and obviously uncomfortable lycra outfit causing a wobble or swerve into my path.

Adjusting the fit of the helmet or, the angle of the helmet mounted camera - same result.

Gossiping so intently with a companion that they only become aware of a hazard at the last minute - same result.

Adjusting some 'app' on the bike mounted phone or device - same result.

Seeing a lump in the road that might cause the inappropriately 'race standard' saddle to impact their 'bits' - same result.

The reality of the situation is this - drivers are not allowed to be on the road without passing a very stringent set of tests, HGV drivers more so.

Anyone can walk into a bicycle shop and ride out with no instruction or testing whatsoever - I would suggest that in any scenario, this mix of experience and the novice is a recipe for disaster.

Originally Posted by gazaprop

I travel the road between Croston and Chorley almost daily, both in a car and a HGV. The road is very popular with cyclists and the standard of 'cycling proficiency' is frankly appalling.
I've lost count of the number of potentially serious collisions I've had to avoid, due entirely to the stupidity of the cyclist/s.

Favourite stupid acts include - adjusting the fit of the ridiculous and obviously uncomfortable lycra outfit causing a wobble or swerve into my path.

Adjusting the fit of the helmet or, the angle of the helmet mounted camera - same result.

Gossiping so intently with a companion that they only become aware of a hazard at the last minute - same result.

Adjusting some 'app' on the bike mounted phone or device - same result.

Seeing a lump in the road that might cause the inappropriately 'race standard' saddle to impact their 'bits' - same result.

The reality of the situation is this - drivers are not allowed to be on the road without passing a very stringent set of tests, HGV drivers more so.

Anyone can walk into a bicycle shop and ride out with no instruction or testing whatsoever - I would suggest that in any scenario, this mix of experience and the novice is a recipe for disaster.

OMG, you don’t half spout some crap. As a “ professional driver” you should be leaving enough clearance, rather than having to swerve to avoid a cyclist, who ‘might’ change course slightly to avoid an obstacle. Also chatting is allowed, just like chatting in a car is too.....
The reality of the situation is, you’re a sh*t driver.

Originally Posted by gazaprop

I travel the road between Croston and Chorley almost daily, both in a car and a HGV. The road is very popular with cyclists and the standard of 'cycling proficiency' is frankly appalling.
I've lost count of the number of potentially serious collisions I've had to avoid, due entirely to the stupidity of the cyclist/s.

Favourite stupid acts include - adjusting the fit of the ridiculous and obviously uncomfortable lycra outfit causing a wobble or swerve into my path.

Adjusting the fit of the helmet or, the angle of the helmet mounted camera - same result.

Gossiping so intently with a companion that they only become aware of a hazard at the last minute - same result.

Adjusting some 'app' on the bike mounted phone or device - same result.

Seeing a lump in the road that might cause the inappropriately 'race standard' saddle to impact their 'bits' - same result.

The reality of the situation is this - drivers are not allowed to be on the road without passing a very stringent set of tests, HGV drivers more so.

Anyone can walk into a bicycle shop and ride out with no instruction or testing whatsoever - I would suggest that in any scenario, this mix of experience and the novice is a recipe for disaster.

I agree that the standard of some cyclists is shocking, however, in comparison, there are very few cases of people being killed or seriously injured by Cyclists, unlike with cars and HGVs.
I hold a car licence, motorcycle licence and have held a Cat C+E, for over 20 years so I’m aware of the standard of driving needed to pass the tests. One of the main lessons I remember was how, when passing cyclists and other vulnerable road users, to give them at least as much space as you would a car as they can be unpredictable.

Mostly, this comment was addressed to Little Londoner, who, despite never meeting me, a few weeks ago told me how if I were to go for a drive with him, I would realise what, (in his words), a crap driver I was. It was posted to see if he’s prepared to demonstrate this, as I’ve yet to receive a response.

Originally Posted by Sap33

I agree that the standard of some cyclists is shocking, however, in comparison, there are very few cases of people being killed or seriously injured by Cyclists, unlike with cars and HGVs.
I hold a car licence, motorcycle licence and have held a Cat C+E, for over 20 years so I’m aware of the standard of driving needed to pass the tests. One of the main lessons I remember was how, when passing cyclists and other vulnerable road users, to give them at least as much space as you would a car as they can be unpredictable.

Mostly, this comment was addressed to Little Londoner, who, despite never meeting me, a few weeks ago told me how if I were to go for a drive with him, I would realise what, (in his words), a crap driver I was. It was posted to see if he’s prepared to demonstrate this, as I’ve yet to receive a response.

Fair comment but I think you will agree the potential for harm from a car or truck far exceeds that from a bike hence the low figures for injuries from cyclists.

I'm not talking about small corrections or wobbles from the cyclists concerned - I'm referring to exaggerated manoeuvres that bring them dangerously close to my near side even, when giving as wide a berth as is possible on that road.
I notice lawed143, before adopting the persona of Uncle Knobhead and throwing a literary hissy fit, could only take issue with one of my 'scenarios' - ergo, the rest must stand up to examination.

I forgot to include in the poor cycling proficiency league, those who grossly over estimate their fitness levels.

Originally Posted by gazaprop

Fair comment but I think you will agree the potential for harm from a car or truck far exceeds that from a bike hence the low figures for injuries from cyclists.

I'm not talking about small corrections or wobbles from the cyclists concerned - I'm referring to exaggerated manoeuvres that bring them dangerously close to my near side even, when giving as wide a berth as is possible on that road.
I notice lawed143, before adopting the persona of Uncle Knobhead and throwing a literary hissy fit, could only take issue with one of my 'scenarios' - ergo, the rest must stand up to examination.

I forgot to include in the poor cycling proficiency league, those who grossly over estimate their fitness levels.

Absolutely agree with the potential for harm, with a bike (push bike or otherwise) I adopt the 'It doesn't matter who's fault, I'll come off worse' approach and try and stay well away from anything with four or more wheels.

I also know the area you're talking about and agree that there are plenty of the lycra clad brigade who understand enough of the law to want to exercise their right to ride, but seem to think that because they have this right that it gives them carte blanche to ignore the Highway Code, which applies TO EVERY ROAD USER.

Originally Posted by Sap33

I agree that the standard of some cyclists is shocking, however, in comparison, there are very few cases of people being killed or seriously injured by Cyclists, unlike with cars and HGVs.
I hold a car licence, motorcycle licence and have held a Cat C+E, for over 20 years so I’m aware of the standard of driving needed to pass the tests. One of the main lessons I remember was how, when passing cyclists and other vulnerable road users, to give them at least as much space as you would a car as they can be unpredictable.

Mostly, this comment was addressed to Little Londoner, who, despite never meeting me, a few weeks ago told me how if I were to go for a drive with him, I would realise what, (in his words), a crap driver I was. It was posted to see if he’s prepared to demonstrate this, as I’ve yet to receive a response.

It isn't very helpful to point out that a 12 stone cyclist rarely damages a tonne plus of vehicle as it doesn't attribute responsibility.

Swinging into the opposing lane at short notice as a cyclist meanders across the carriageway is something we all have to do as drivers, it would be better all round if we didn't have to and particularly for the vulnerable road user.

The wholesale defence of cyclists (I am one) does nothing for the death rate and injury rate perhaps a more constructive stance is needed.