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  1. local says:11/05/2019 10:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    What a lovely pipe dream, trade between countries is very much based on mutual understanding and terms, if you think that we or any one else for that matter could trade with the rest of the world on OUR TERMS, keep dreaming, we already trade with a very large portion of the world through EU negotiated deals, tell me do you really believe that we could get better terms on our own? some countries sure, but equally others have already made it clear that they aren't exactly falling over themselves to even bother negotiating let alone giving us more beneficial terms.

    Trump is busily building a trade war with China and will be just as tough on any one if he feels that Americas economy is hindered, any country which has a trade surplus with America need to tread carefully.

    Japan have expressed little or no interest in fresh negotiation with the UK alone, simply because they don't need to, we can go cap in hand to the ex Commonwealth countries who I have no doubt will welcome us back with open arms after the way they were dumped when we joined the Common Market.

    To date success in even opening the possibility of trading with other non-EU countries has achieved very little and like it or not we will still have to trade with the EU whether we wish to or not, because currently we are dependent on much from within the EU, sure fresh suppliers can and will be found, but over what time scale, it won't be weeks, months or even a few years, when even Mogg concedes that it could be as much as FIFTY YEARS before the country truly benefits, in other words as long or longer than we have been members of The Common Market/EU.

    Great prospects/


    Are you answering someone else's post ?

    your comments bears little relationship to my post ?

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  3. Nash says:12/05/2019 11:49 AM
    Some people have huge difficulty understanding the complexity of the world. They are called Brexiteers. Simple slogans are all they understand. Try this one:

    BOLLOCKS TO BREXIT

  4. silver fox says:12/05/2019 09:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    A great number of countries deal with the EU - but they are not obliged to pay huge membership fees and do not have to adhere to the ever intruding EU policies. The UK has for a good number of years been trading outside the EU, because UK businesses need to compete in the global market. The EU stagnates competition in marketing. The Euro has been growing weaker over the past few years and industry in the EU is greatly reduced. The ship is sinking!
    All of these countries trade with the EU through a trade agreement, currently we do not have any trade agreement on our own, judging from the ""raging success""" in negotiations over the last 3 years wouldn't hold your breath waiting for OUR deals to come through, if you think we have the same negotiating power as the EU, dream on, we do trade with countries outside of EU agreements, but any idea that this is any approaching a majority % or even a % of note is false.

    In total most of our trade both imports and exports are with or under EU trade agreements, plus there are also preferential trade agreements with other countries through the EU, which give limited free trade on certain products, in short currently there are only 57 countries in the world which we would trade with under WTO rules, most are small countries who we do little or no trade with anyway, so a no deal Brexit will leave us open to whatever WTO tariffs all member countries have registered, this by the way will come into play automatically, not a case of country A,B or C suddenly raising tariffs.

  5. silver fox says:12/05/2019 09:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Are you answering someone else's post ?

    your comments bears little relationship to my post ?
    Last line of your post was in relation to trade.

  6. Sproggy the Cat says:12/05/2019 09:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    Some people have huge difficulty understanding the complexity of the world. They are called Brexiteers. Simple slogans are all they understand. Try this one:

    BOLLOCKS TO BREXIT
    So you have to be abusive to others to get your point across, says it all doesn’t it.



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