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  1. Published on: 28/06/2019 12:10 PMReported by: roving-eye
    Exciting new plans are being developed to potentially transform Southport Market into a unique food and drink offer with flexible events and market space.

    Impressive images have just been released charting how the King Street market could look like in the future.

    While no final decisions have yet been made, Sefton Council is starting the process by talking to current stall holders about the exciting plans with the view of moving things forward through the usual formal process.



    Sefton remains totally committed to ensuring Southport Market continues to operate and makes a positive contribution to the local economy as well as becoming a key visitor destination.

    For this to happen, the Council believes the current operating model needs to be adapted to meet changing consumer and businesses demands, and are looking at options on how to build on the previous investment that will potentially deliver:

    • Enhanced hot food and drink offer
    • Self-contained food retail units
    • Flexible market and events space

    Cllr Marion Atkinson, Sefton Council’s Labour Cabinet Member for Economic Growth and Housing, said: “We really value Southport Market but sadly it has become evident that many factors are making trading conditions extremely difficult and occupancy levels continue to fall.




    “While we have been actively promoting it and trying to secure new traders along with other initiatives to help deliver a long term sustainable future for the market, this has sadly not worked.

    “As a result and building on our former investment at the market, new plans are being developed to potentially transform the building into a unique offer that will only benefit the town and the wider borough.

    “Nothing is set in stone and as we develop further plans over the coming weeks and months we will ensure existing traders are fully kept up to date and consulted on any final plans.

    “While we totally understand how trading conditions have been difficult in the market for many months, we remain committed to supporting traders throughout this exciting process and will continue to do so.”




    Blackhurst’s butchers have been in the market for 40 years, and o
    wner, Tony Blackhurst, said: “Having seen the market change over a number of years I am really excited to see the latest plans and look forward to Blackhurst’s butchers playing a key role in the market’s transformation. Blackhurst’s butchers along with the other market traders remain open and we look forward to seeing you soon.”

    Anyone who may have an interest in the market’s exciting future plans, please contact tourism@sefton.gov.uk

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  3. jonnybgood says:28/06/2019 12:18 PM
    A large drop in rents for the tenants for a start,no fancy overpriced items,large variety of DIFFERENT items,clothing,perfumes,household goods,electrical goods,food outlets,butchers,shoes,ironmongers etc etc.....How a market should be stocked for shoppers,a virtual supermarket selling goods at the right price for the consumers.

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  5. ainsdale local says:28/06/2019 12:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnybgood View Post
    A large drop in rents for the tenants for a start,no fancy overpriced items,large variety of DIFFERENT items,clothing,perfumes,household goods,electrical goods,food outlets,butchers,shoes,ironmongers etc etc.....How a market should be stocked for shoppers,a virtual supermarket selling goods at the right price for the consumers.
    Agree, plus stop having the cheapo market stalls in Chapel Street - any seller wishing to sell via a market stall should be pointed towards the indoor market with maybe more flexible lease/licence terms. Anything to encourage more foot-fall.

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  7. Alikado says:28/06/2019 12:34 PM
    Move the popup market into the market hall.

  8. salus.populi says:28/06/2019 01:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnybgood View Post
    A large drop in rents for the tenants for a start,no fancy overpriced items,large variety of DIFFERENT items,clothing,perfumes,household goods,electrical goods,food outlets,butchers,shoes,ironmongers etc etc.....How a market should be stocked for shoppers,a virtual supermarket selling goods at the right price for the consumers.
    The proposals are for a food and drink venue. Nothing else.

  9. LeftyFailsAgain says:28/06/2019 02:11 PM
    The recent food and drink "offers" have all moved out of the market because of lack of foot-fall and high rents. What will be different this time?

    If you entice café traders with low rent offers for a limited period you're likely to empty out Lord Street even more.

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  11. jamyramy says:28/06/2019 08:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    The proposals are for a food and drink venue. Nothing else.
    these are just copycat proposals ,in some places its working in most not,just self ego stroking and b/**** from its proposers.fix the town first,then the rest may follow.every rep that's visits my buissness from across the land states southports the worst uptake of orders and vehement parking regimes as to why their the last stop on their trips.this year the coach viits are drastically down .its windy city out there.so much so our restuaranteers are having a comp as to how many tables served in a month.the only busy activity is our police callouts an cannabis raids. were f/ckd

  12. clive764 says:29/06/2019 08:46 AM
    Sefton need to give it to someone with experience of this sort of thing, who know what they are doing, like Trafford Council did with Altrincham Market.

  13. clive764 says:29/06/2019 08:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    The proposals are for a food and drink venue. Nothing else.
    If you read the article I don't think you are entirely correct.

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  15. susanb says:30/06/2019 08:03 AM
    How much is it going to cost??
    Last time the Council up graded the market it cost £4,000.000.!!!
    Anyone remember how many years ago it was upgraded?

  16. Alikado says:30/06/2019 03:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by clive764 View Post
    Sefton need to give it to someone with experience of this sort of thing, who know what they are doing, like Trafford Council did with Altrincham Market.
    That is why the Market is like it is now, they got experts in!

  17. hja says:30/06/2019 05:28 PM
    If the council are involved it’s doomed, it will sink quicker then the Titanic
    Quote Originally Posted by roving-eye View Post
    Exciting new plans are being developed to potentially transform Southport Market into a unique food and drink offer with flexible events and market space.
    If the idiots on the council are involved it’s doomed and will sink quicker than the Titanic,

    Impressive images have just been released charting how the King Street market could look like in the future.


    While no final decisions have yet been made, Sefton Council is starting the process by talking to current stall holders about the exciting plans with the view of moving things forward through the usual formal process.













    Sefton remains totally committed to ensuring Southport Market continues to operate and makes a positive contribution to the local economy as well as becoming a key visitor destination.


    For this to happen, the Council believes the current operating model needs to be adapted to meet changing consumer and businesses demands, and are looking at options on how to build on the previous investment that will potentially deliver:


    • Enhanced hot food and drink offer
    • Self-contained food retail units
    • Flexible market and events space


    Cllr Marion Atkinson, Sefton Council’s Labour Cabinet Member for Economic Growth and Housing, said: “We really value Southport Market but sadly it has become evident that many factors are making trading conditions extremely difficult and occupancy levels continue to fall.
















    “While we have been actively promoting it and trying to secure new traders along with other initiatives to help deliver a long term sustainable future for the market, this has sadly not worked.


    “As a result and building on our former investment at the market, new plans are being developed to potentially transform the building into a unique offer that will only benefit the town and the wider borough.


    “Nothing is set in stone and as we develop further plans over the coming weeks and months we will ensure existing traders are fully kept up to date and consulted on any final plans.


    “While we totally understand how trading conditions have been difficult in the market for many months, we remain committed to supporting traders throughout this exciting process and will continue to do so.”















    Blackhurst’s butchers have been in the market for 40 years.



    Owner, Tony Blackhurst, said: “Having seen the market change over a number of years I am really excited to see the latest plans and look forward to Blackhurst’s butchers playing a key role in the market’s transformation. Blackhurt’s butchers along with the other market traders remain open and we look forward to seeing you soon.”



    Anyone who may have an interest in the market’s exciting future plans, please contact tourism@sefton.gov.uk

  18. said says:30/06/2019 10:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by susanb View Post
    How much is it going to cost??
    Last time the Council up graded the market it cost £4,000.000.!!!
    Anyone remember how many years ago it was upgraded?

    The market was refurbished in 2012 at a cost of £3 million. The rent that each stall holder needs to find every week is £120 including heat and lights. Many stall holders struggled to even cover those costs. The council should allow for gradient rent, starting at around £30 per week for the first year, and raising by £10 per week per year according to footfall. This would fill the stalls and hopefully the public interest. The market should open from 9am - 6pm to allow for custom from people working shop hours. At present it closes around 4.30pm. There would be no need to refurbish the market again, the council would save on these costs.

    By opening as a food and drink venue is not a good idea as the market is not central enough to attract visitors and it would only serve to reduce the numbers of customers to existing venues. The proposed costs of £4 million would not be returned and the proposal would be a waste of money.

    The £4 million would be better spent on creating a competition for all potential business people - to suggest ideas for opening new retail trade in Southport. Those people who had the most creative ideas would win the chance to be given a premises rent free, business tax free for a year - to test their idea out.

    The council should also consider opening one of the central car parks as a Free Parking site. The Chapel Street market should be moved to one of the side streets since the existing market has open trading display on one side only and is blind to people shopping on the other side. The market also necessitates the need for motor vehicles along the pedestrianised area causing damage to the paving and obstruction to pedestrians.

  19. Lamparilla says:01/07/2019 11:23 AM
    I would agree that the opening hours of the 'unique food and drink offer' would need seriously looking at. Anywhere that calls itself a 'classic resort' needs to cater for the biggest trading day of the week, and Southport Market is currently closed on Sundays!

    Just because the grey suits at Sefton work 9-5, it doesn't mean that a wine bar and bistro could survive on those hours and have to close on a Sunday.

    I would think that the pizza place on the corner (Scoozi) does well because it has an entrance on the street and isn't restricted by the market's opening hours.

    The trouble is that it's a question of 'one in, all in' and I can't imagine the butcher (or any other retail outlet) wanting to be open at 10pm on a Saturday night.

    Perhaps it needs completely rebranding and losing the 'market' tag - that was effectively ruined anyway when the refurb made it look more like a mini shopping mall.

  20. clive764 says:01/07/2019 03:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Lamparilla View Post
    I would agree that the opening hours of the 'unique food and drink offer' would need seriously looking at. Anywhere that calls itself a 'classic resort' needs to cater for the biggest trading day of the week, and Southport Market is currently closed on Sundays!

    Just because the grey suits at Sefton work 9-5, it doesn't mean that a wine bar and bistro could survive on those hours and have to close on a Sunday.

    I would think that the pizza place on the corner (Scoozi) does well because it has an entrance on the street and isn't restricted by the market's opening hours.

    The trouble is that it's a question of 'one in, all in' and I can't imagine the butcher (or any other retail outlet) wanting to be open at 10pm on a Saturday night.

    Perhaps it needs completely rebranding and losing the 'market' tag - that was effectively ruined anyway when the refurb made it look more like a mini shopping mall.
    The two butchers at Altrincham market, plus the cheese, fish, deli and fruit and veg trade normal retail hours, while the food and drink offerings are opening into the evening and Saurday and Sunday (closed Monday). Yes they are immediately outside the Food and Drink areas but that could be achieved in Southport with a change in configuration.


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