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  1. Username2016 says:05/11/2019 07:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    Better than voting for a bunch snake oil salesmen, who stuck a lie on the bus and then filled the bus with liars. Even Farage was not allowed on board in case he said something truthful.

    Thanks to Tory austerity we have lost libraries, A&E departments, school subjects due to reduced funding, and even public toilets. About time the Tories were flushed down the toilet where they belong.
    You could say the Lib Dems are equally snake oil sellers in that anyone can write down what they would do if elected but in reality they have to implement it to count. For example student fee rises. More-so with all the policies they supported in coalition to enable them to become reality and now bemoan to use as political capital. You only have to look at lib Dems bar charts to see how much they like to distort reality as well as some of the tactical voting sites being slanted to lib Dems favour.

    I think you'll find a lot of the closures and funding cuts happened during the coalition years of which the Lib Dems sold their principles and promises way voting to enable the cuts and policies to be enabled. With many of their friends becoming peers or MPs getting Knighthoods for "services to the country" demonstrates they recognise their own personal "contributions", an inconvenient truth maybe but the reality of what you get if you show the Lib Dems a sniff of power.

    Having a mantra of "Fighting for Southport" when they deliver nothing but fighting with people of Southport is another key point that should not be ignored. For years they survived by fear mongering, slamming and petitions rather than any tangible action that benefitted Southport, instead perpetuating divisive politics.

    Having a Lib Dem MP is a protest vote at best and accepting no improvement for the town, the 15 years of Pugh and having local Lib Dem councillors should be evidence enough of that, if they couldn't do anything then, they aren't going to be able to do anything if given another chance.

    Finally, with regards the referendum, the Lib Dems wanted it, they just happened to have lost and now want to cancel/sweep under the carpet and accept a load of disgruntled Tory MPs to further cement their position as Yellow Tories alongside the leader's coalition voting record.

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  4. Ceam says:05/11/2019 08:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bambi275 View Post
    I suggest you take a look at their leader, Jo Swinson's, voting record. She voted FOR the majority of austerity cuts including those that affect the disabled and AGAINST higher taxes for people on over £150k.


    LibD literature showing how skewed bar charts and misleading information have been in the news lately too. One graph proclaiming a 2 horse race between Tory and LibDem had in teeny writing at the bottom 'imagine if this was the situation'...


    And.

  5. local says:05/11/2019 08:27 PM
    Aah Lib Dums the vote thieves, remember Jo Swindle demanding an in out referendum,

    why did she want that one wonders.

    So do we vote for a party that respects democracy or one strangely calling themselves democrats who don't want democracy., there's a conundrum,

    Vote Conservative or vote thief.

    Who would vote for a Wright thief ?

    Even Asda Mans looking more appealing.

    Time to dig out the Dum thieves Constitution;

    We believe that sovereignty rests with the people and that authority in a democracy derives from the people.

    Except when they don't want it to of course.


    DON'T VOTE FOR A WRIGHT THIEF.

  6. bambi275 says:05/11/2019 09:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    And.
    You would wish for someone with her voting record and campaign lies to run the country?

  7. K-T says:05/11/2019 10:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bambi275 View Post
    And you are saying that those with strongly held opinions that Brexit is the best way forward for ourselves and our families for generations to come should just roll over and forget the referendum result??

    Sorry, don't think so K-T!
    No, of course not. We all need to do what we think best. I do wonder what evidence you have though that persuades you we will be better off with Brexit.

  8. local says:06/11/2019 08:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by K-T View Post
    No, of course not. We all need to do what we think best. I do wonder what evidence you have though that persuades you we will be better off with Brexit.


    Whatever your politics who can vote for a thief ?

  9. Nash says:06/11/2019 11:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by bambi275 View Post
    Just so you know, the present Lib Dem leader voted FOR those austerity cuts!
    And just so you know, they were implemented by the Conservatives, who have continued to screw the people with further cuts since being elected 2015. Four more years of austerity all their own work.

  10. Username2016 says:06/11/2019 11:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    And just so you know, they were implemented by the Conservatives.
    Inconvenient truth for the libs but they could only implement these changes by the Lib Dem’s voting and supporting them, Jo Swinson was also a government minister (and per previous post more Tory than most of the Tories) so very much part of that government you are bemoaning. Many Lib Dem’s walked away with knighthood as recognition of service, Sir Danny Alexander for services to the treasury being one of them. It’s pretty risible how much the Libs try to distance themselves from the outcomes of their 15 minutes of fame.

    locally and nationally the Lib Dem’s take no accountability for their actions or inactions, it’s always someone else’s fault which very much underlined how much of a wasted vote they are.

    The yellow Tories will not get a majority government so their best can do is a coalition so let’s not forget what they did last time in coalition as well as how little the town benefitted from a Lib Dem MP before anyone thinks another Lib Dem MP is a good idea!
    Last edited by Username2016; 06/11/2019 at 12:37 PM.

  11. Ceam says:06/11/2019 04:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bambi275 View Post
    You would wish for someone with her voting record and campaign lies to run the country?
    Do we have a choice of some one who lies and some one who doesn't?

    They are ALL as bent as each other. At least they are not pretending they have a magical cure to this cancer we call Brexit.
    Just cut it out and try to rebuild the damage it has done to our reputation the world over.

  12. Nash says:06/11/2019 07:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Username2016 View Post

    I think you'll find a lot of the closures and funding cuts happened during the coalition years of which the Lib Dems sold their principles and promises way voting to enable the cuts and policies to be enabled. With many of their friends becoming peers or MPs getting Knighthoods for "services to the country" demonstrates they recognise their own personal "contributions", an inconvenient truth maybe but the reality of what you get if you show the Lib Dems a sniff of power.

    Having a Lib Dem MP is a protest vote at best and accepting no improvement for the town, the 15 years of Pugh and having local Lib Dem councillors should be evidence enough of that, if they couldn't do anything then, they aren't going to be able to do anything if given another chance.

    Finally, with regards the referendum, the Lib Dems wanted it, they just happened to have lost and now want to cancel/sweep under the carpet and accept a load of disgruntled Tory MPs to further cement their position as Yellow Tories alongside the leader's coalition voting record.
    And you will find that without the Liberal Democrats, the Tories ran riot with cutting public services to the bone. So much for the party of law and order. The Windrush fiasco happened with Theresa May, and the nasty party reached new depths.

    Please state where the Liberal Democrats asked for a Referendum? This was Cameron caving in to right wing extremists that John Major called B*******s".

    Having a Liberal Democrat MP is sign of optimism that Conservative cronies no longer rule unfettered. The Tories will continue run the country into the ditch.

  13. Mr B S Sniffer says:06/11/2019 08:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    And you will find that without the Liberal Democrats, the Tories ran riot with cutting public services to the bone. So much for the party of law and order. The Windrush fiasco happened with Theresa May, and the nasty party reached new depths.

    Please state where the Liberal Democrats asked for a Referendum? This was Cameron caving in to right wing extremists that John Major called B*******s".

    Having a Liberal Democrat MP is sign of optimism that Conservative cronies no longer rule unfettered. The Tories will continue run the country into the ditch.
    Cleggy called for an in/out referendum in 2008

  14. local says:06/11/2019 09:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    And you will find that without the Liberal Democrats, the Tories ran riot with cutting public services to the bone. So much for the party of law and order. The Windrush fiasco happened with Theresa May, and the nasty party reached new depths.

    Please state where the Liberal Democrats asked for a Referendum? This was Cameron caving in to right wing extremists that John Major called B*******s".

    Having a Liberal Democrat MP is sign of optimism that Conservative cronies no longer rule unfettered. The Tories will continue run the country into the ditch.


    It must be disappointing to be taken in by the liar Swinson who did push for a referendum but you have to ask why the Dums wanted one when they keep telling us how good it is to be in the EU.


    They were though beaten to it by the now defunct Referendum Party with Sir James Goldsmith remember him ?

    https://fullfact.org/europe/lib-dems...eu-referendum/

    https://fullfact.org/online/jo-swins...rendum-quotes/


    The Liberal Democrats are thieves and liars don't let them destroy our countries democracy.

  15. Username2016 says:06/11/2019 10:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    And you will find that without the Liberal Democrats, the Tories ran riot with cutting public services to the bone. So much for the party of law and order.
    but libs were part of the coalition and claimed their knighthoods and extra peerages, so what exactly are you saying, the Lib Dem’s are ineffective and a wasted vote or they sold their souls for a bit of power and glory?

    The Windrush fiasco happened with Theresa May, and the nasty party reached new depths.
    so tell me, given it happened during the coalition what did the Lib Dem’s do to stop this or is it more mudslinging/proof a Lib Dem vote is ineffective?

    Please state where the Liberal Democrats asked for a referendum
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.l...it-referendum/

    Having a Liberal Democrat MP is sign of optimism
    no it isn’t, please list more than two things John Pugh achieved for Southport in 15 years....disappointment can not be one of them and the last Southport Lib Dem candidates best idea for Southport was a tram from ASDA to the pier before disappearing from all public and womble-ing (its not political honest but in every Lib Dem advert honest) newsletter

  16. Nash says:06/11/2019 10:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Username2016 View Post
    You could say the Lib Dems are equally snake oil sellers in that anyone can write down what they would do if elected but in reality they have to implement it to count. For example student fee rises. More-so with all the policies they supported in coalition to enable them to become reality and now bemoan to use as political capital. You only have to look at lib Dems bar charts to see how much they like to distort reality as well as some of the tactical voting sites being slanted to lib Dems favour.

    I think you'll find a lot of the closures and funding cuts happened during the coalition years of which the Lib Dems sold their principles and promises way voting to enable the cuts and policies to be enabled. With many of their friends becoming peers or MPs getting Knighthoods for "services to the country" demonstrates they recognise their own personal "contributions", an inconvenient truth maybe but the reality of what you get if you show the Lib Dems a sniff of power.

    Having a mantra of "Fighting for Southport" when they deliver nothing but fighting with people of Southport is another key point that should not be ignored. For years they survived by fear mongering, slamming and petitions rather than any tangible action that benefitted Southport, instead perpetuating divisive politics.

    Having a Lib Dem MP is a protest vote at best and accepting no improvement for the town, the 15 years of Pugh and having local Lib Dem councillors should be evidence enough of that, if they couldn't do anything then, they aren't going to be able to do anything if given another chance.

    Finally, with regards the referendum, the Lib Dems wanted it, they just happened to have lost and now want to cancel/sweep under the carpet and accept a load of disgruntled Tory MPs to further cement their position as Yellow Tories alongside the leader's coalition voting record.
    You could say that the earth is flat, it wouldn't be true,but you could say it. What is fact is that this Tory government are the most duplicitous and dishonest government of this century. Led by a well known two faced blimp. He wrote an impassioned article that staying in the EU was best for Britain, until he concluded that his personal ambition would be best served by advocating Leave.

    We have the chance to dump him but without voting Labour. Seize the chance to vote for the Wright stuff.

  17. Username2016 says:06/11/2019 10:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nash View Post
    You could say that the earth is flat, it wouldn't be true,but you could say it. What is fact is that this Tory government are the most duplicitous and dishonest government of this century. Led by a well known two faced blimp. He wrote an impassioned article that staying in the EU was best for Britain, until he concluded that his personal ambition would be best served by advocating Leave.

    We have the chance to dump him but without voting Labour. Seize the chance to vote for the Wright stuff.
    the Lib Dem’s happily banked their time in the coalition yet shirk any responsibility for the negative aspects so no credibility there.

    as for “the Wright stuff” have you been at the “Cherie Brandie” too much as someone who failed in south ribble which was his biggest honour to represent as his home town to suddenly find his Southport affinity is a bit of a reach to be a good thing! Even although John Pugh was local what did he actually do for Southport in 15 years other than rent an office off his own party in return for donations and therefore why would John “Not” Wright be any better?

    All you and fellow Lib Dem “social media champions” do is list examples where Lib Dem’s either banked the role and did nothing or couldn’t stop it so all you’re in effect doing is affirming that a Lib Dem vote is ineffective nationally and locally!

    It is astounding that Lib Dem supporters and politicians criticise others and talk about themselves like they actually delivered or achieved anything for the town.
    Last edited by Username2016; 07/11/2019 at 06:06 AM.



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