World Beating Contract Tracing App !

[Alikado]

The World Beating Contract Tracing app downloaded over 16 million times has had its first success and sent an alert out, apparently it doesn't tell you who with or where you may have been exposed but Hey Ho it is World Beating.
There is no indication of when it may send out its second alert!

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...venue-12099651

[Toodles McGinty]

My sister had to download the Serco app recently. She went on a 'Haven' long weekend and it was part of the T&Cs.

She had a couple of "You are in a high risk area" notifications. Nothing too alarming, until this morning. This morning she received a different message. It started off saying that yesterday she was in close contact with someone who had just tested positive for the 'rona. Then she took a call, ended the call and went back to the Serco app to read the rest of it. The message had disappeared and she couldn't get it back to follow any instructions. So 2 things made her quite angry: firstly, why didn't it tell her where she was exposed to it? For how long? Why does it not have "messages" on the menu so you can read it properly instead of it being some kind of memory test ?

Secondly and most important , why TAF are people going out shopping when they have had enough symptoms to have done a test?

I'm the first to criticise the government over the handling of this, but my God, there are some thick twunts around just going about their business without a care about infecting other people. After they've had a test? It doesn't matter what the authorities do if we've a population of dribbling, mindless morons doing sweet FA to help the situation.

Now she has a sore throat. Hopefully it's just that.

[Desert Region]

My sister had to download the Serco app recently. She went on a 'Haven' long weekend and it was part of the T&Cs.

She had a couple of "You are in a high risk area" notifications. Nothing too alarming, until this morning. This morning she received a different message. It started off saying that yesterday she was in close contact with someone who had just tested positive for the 'rona. Then she took a call, ended the call and went back to the Serco app to read the rest of it. The message had disappeared and she couldn't get it back to follow any instructions. So 2 things made her quite angry: firstly, why didn't it tell her where she was exposed to it? For how long? Why does it not have "messages" on the menu so you can read it properly instead of it being some kind of memory test ?

Secondly and most important , why TAF are people going out shopping when they have had enough symptoms to have done a test?

I'm the first to criticise the government over the handling of this, but my God, there are some thick twunts around just going about their business without a care about infecting other people. After they've had a test? It doesn't matter what the authorities do if we've a population of dribbling, mindless morons doing sweet FA to help the situation.

Now she has a sore throat. Hopefully it's just that.

Hopefully it is just that and a few Honey & Lemon Strepsils lozenges have her right as rain.


I don't know if you've seen that video tweet on social media, from under a couple of weeks ago. Via the Liverpool Echo link, but if you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find the short, embedded video showing a massive throng of a drunken street party in Liverpool city centre:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...hings-19005135

As out of order, wrong and unacceptable as the Government's defence of Dominic Cummings was, and as inconsistent with their messaging as this Government has been, that's got virtually nothing to do with the mass of people who were out on the streets of Liverpool partying each night just a couple of weeks ago. If those revellers were pressed to justify themselves, they might try the go-to excuse of a Dominic Cummings reference, but that was back in May!

You may notice, too, in the quotes on that same liked page, that the Liverpool Mayor is careful to avoid criticising the behaviour of the drunks spreading the virus at their nightly Liverpool city centre, super-spreader event. Instead, he focuses on questioning the Government's 10pm pub closure time, as though that excuses booze-hounds' choices and behaviour.

The other week, I noticed that Liverpool had the 4th highest infection rate in England! Which isn't suprising.

[Alikado]

I agree that this Government will get criticised for most everything - whether or not they deserve that criticism. That could be seen recently in the odd reactions to the Government acting correctly and swiftly re air corridors and quarintine requirements.

It is fair, though, for the Government to receive flak for a system that is far from "world-beating." They made a rod for their own back by over-promising then under-delivering.

Regarding air corridors their action was far from swift, they were speculating talking about for well over a fortnight then gave a weeks notice to enable everybody to return to avoid quarantine. Unbelievably they have now reinstated parts of Greece to enable half term holidays.

[Alikado]

Hopefully it is just that and a few Honey & Lemon Strepsils lozenges have her right as rain.


I don't know if you've seen that video tweet on social media, from under a couple of weeks ago. Via the Liverpool Echo link, but if you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find the short, embedded video showing a massive throng of a drunken street party in Liverpool city centre:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...hings-19005135

As out of order, wrong and unacceptable as the Government's defence of Dominic Cummings was, and as inconsistent with their messaging as this Government has been, that's got virtually nothing to do with the mass of people who were out on the streets of Liverpool partying each night just a couple of weeks ago. If those revellers were pressed to justify themselves, they might try the go-to excuse of a Dominic Cummings reference, but that was back in May!

You may notice, too, in the quotes on that same liked page, that the Liverpool Mayor is careful to avoid criticising the behaviour of the drunks spreading the virus at their nightly Liverpool city centre, super-spreader event. Instead, he focuses on questioning the Government's 10pm pub closure time, as though that excuses booze-hounds' choices and behaviour.

The other week, I noticed that Liverpool had the 4th highest infection rate in England! Which isn't suprising.

That picture was taken at a 'pinch point', everybody had just been turfed out of the bars and were trying to get cabs and trains, the police said it was dispersed in a few minutes. It was just somebody trying to make a name for themselves flogging a picture to the press.

[Desert Region]

Regarding air corridors their action was far from swift, they were speculating talking about for well over a fortnight then gave a weeks notice to enable everybody to return to avoid quarantine. Unbelievably they have now reinstated parts of Greece to enable half term holidays.

The emphasis of your arguments shifted around in that Quarantine Requirements thread. At an early point in the thread you were saying this:

I think the public have been slightly misled by the Government over these Air Corridors, they didn't give any / enough emphasis to the possibility of them possibly revoking them and lulled people into a false sense of security to book holidays possibly in the efforts to 'restart the economy'.

[Desert Region]

That picture was taken at a 'pinch point', everybody had just been turfed out of the bars and were trying to get cabs and trains, the police said it was dispersed in a few minutes. It was just somebody trying to make a name for themselves flogging a picture to the press.

It wasn't a photo, it was a short video. And it didn't look like a scene of people trying to get taxis and trains. How was that a video of people trying to get trains?

[Toodles McGinty]

Hopefully it is just that and a few Honey & Lemon Strepsils lozenges have her right as rain.


I don't know if you've seen that video tweet on social media, from under a couple of weeks ago. Via the Liverpool Echo link, but if you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find the short, embedded video showing a massive throng of a drunken street party in Liverpool city centre:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...hings-19005135

As out of order, wrong and unacceptable as the Government's defence of Dominic Cummings was, and as inconsistent with their messaging as this Government has been, that's got virtually nothing to do with the mass of people who were out on the streets of Liverpool partying each night just a couple of weeks ago. If those revellers were pressed to justify themselves, they might try the go-to excuse of a Dominic Cummings reference, but that was back in May!

You may notice, too, in the quotes on that same liked page, that the Liverpool Mayor is careful to avoid criticising the behaviour of the drunks spreading the virus at their nightly Liverpool city centre, super-spreader event. Instead, he focuses on questioning the Government's 10pm pub closure time, as though that excuses booze-hounds' choices and behaviour.

The other week, I noticed that Liverpool had the 4th highest infection rate in England! Which isn't suprising.

This is the problem, people are idiots.

You have younger people who don't give a damn because they are unlikely to be badly affected by it. Until they are. And they obviously don't see the harm they can do by spreading it.

Not all, obviously. And not just younger people, either. I see in my own family the blatant disregard they have for others. They simply don't follow whatever guidance, or even laws, that the government introduces.

I know so many just like them. It's easier to count those that I know who do stick to the rules.

Also, the 10 o'clock closing was thought up by someone I assume has never been in a pub in their life. 11pm, people go home. They are used to that. 10pm, they feel the night hasn't ended. Even if they've gone out earlier. It has the exact opposite effect of stemming infections. I know it's idiotic, but it's human nature.

I'd shut the pubs, restaurants and bars. Curb the infection rate, keep the NHS from being overwhelmed. And subsidise wages so those in the trade can actually live as normally as possible. Not a perfect solution, but I'd give it a try.

[Desert Region]

This is the problem, people are idiots.

You have younger people who don't give a damn because they are unlikely to be badly affected by it. Until they are. And they obviously don't see the harm they can do by spreading it.

Not all, obviously. And not just younger people, either. I see in my own family the blatant disregard they have for others. They simply don't follow whatever guidance, or even laws, that the government introduces.

I know so many just like them. It's easier to count those that I know who do stick to the rules.

Also, the 10 o'clock closing was thought up by someone I assume has never been in a pub in their life. 11pm, people go home. They are used to that. 10pm, they feel the night hasn't ended. Even if they've gone out earlier. It has the exact opposite effect of stemming infections. I know it's idiotic, but it's human nature.

I'd shut the pubs, restaurants and bars. Curb the infection rate, keep the NHS from being overwhelmed. And subsidise wages so those in the trade can actually live as normally as possible. Not a perfect solution, but I'd give it a try.

There's seems to be an obsession in this country with pubs and boozing. I found it embarrassing that off-licences were designated essential businesses.

That decision can be contrasted with South Africa's alcohol prohibition so as to increase spaces in trauma and intensive care units and to try to decrease domestic violence cases.

Indeed, many countries and states also introduced alcohol bans and limitations earlier this year, often trying to slow the virus spread and domestic abuse of women and children.

But in this country the freedom to go the pub, get drunk and watch the footy in a rowdy setting must be protected at all costs.

[Desert Region]

I'd add that the success of Liverpool's football teams has probably kept the Liverpool pub and bar scene extra busy. Liverpool F.C. won the top tier league this year and I notice from Forum threads that Everton F.C are prospering this season.

[Alikado]

It wasn't a photo, it was a short video. And it didn't look like a scene of people trying to get taxis and trains. How was that a video of people trying to get trains?

because the photo was taken at the bottom of a pedestrianised street where the taxis are and the railway station is just around the corner.

[Alikado]

The emphasis of your arguments shifted around in that Quarantine Requirements thread. At an early point in the thread you were saying this:

It's 2 different parts , when the Air Corridors were introduced they spent weeks talking and speculating that they would be to 'safe' countries and they glossed over the fact that they could be withdrawn and probably would be.
When they started to withdraw they started shouting like spoilt kids saying they would scream if not given sweets about imposing a ban and people flooded back from infected areas early to avoid quarantine, they should have been withdrawn a lot quicker and people forced into isolation.

[Desert Region]

because the photo was taken at the bottom of a pedestrianised street where the taxis are and the railway station is just around the corner.

People were waiting on a pedestrianised street for a train?!

You'll find that the place that people get trains from is a train station.

[MICK/GILLY]

I have got the NHS covid app and it says PR8 is a high risk area, I booked a test through it last Friday and it set itself to me having to isolate for 7 days.
The results were negative and emailed to me at 1.23am on Sunday morning and the app somehow knew this and reset itself back to all clear and scanning . I think that’s quite clever.

[local]

It is pretty good but if you have an anti government bent you will undoubtedly look for and find a fault.

If we had an authoritarian society it would work better but then there would be complaints about that.

The whingers should be struck off from NHS care to make more room for those of us that appreciate the efforts people are making for us from the government down.