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Whats next - Blackouts?
A warning has gone out to the Southeast that due to a shortage of engineers there could be Blackouts and to keep Torches and Warm Clothing handy!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...us-crisis.html
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Originally Posted by Alikado
Is the Daily Mail really struggling to keep in business? Still the media have had a field day of late, they have really outdone themselves over the virus. The clue comes from the government classification of a 'herd'!
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Originally Posted by Alikado
Whilst browsing the Twattersphere, I came across one post from the Daily Heil, headline something along the lines of 'Did Barnier Infect Johnson?'. The post then showed the comments section from the article.
Far from the usual far right diarrhoea from those readers slightly more fascist than Mussolini (they usually want to string Barnier & co. up from the nearest lamp post), they were actually railing against the article. Basically saying this was ridiculous even for the Mail. An article too far, and all that. Did my old socialist heart good to read them.
While I could foresee problems with utilities if this situation went on for a very long time - and even then, the armed forces would be drafted in to keep things flowing - I wouldn't trust the Mail if it said April starts tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
Would be a disaster for the meat hoarders when their freezers stop working.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this happened. The problem isn't corona virus, it is the mass hysteria being whipped up by the media - and their main cheer leader the BBC. With the government afraid to veer from the BBC mantra and promising all sorts of compensation for those who fear to go - or choose not to go - to work, it is obvious that many essential industries are working with a shortage of manpower and this can only get worse. The most sensible article I have read on the issue is in today's Daily Express page 13. It is written by Frederick Forsyth - one of the few journalists who speak the truth. It is headed - "Is virus really as bad as we are being told". He echos my sentiments exactly.
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Originally Posted by duncet
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this happened. The problem isn't corona virus, it is the mass hysteria being whipped up by the media - and their main cheer leader the BBC. With the government afraid to veer from the BBC mantra and promising all sorts of compensation for those who fear to go - or choose not to go - to work, it is obvious that many essential industries are working with a shortage of manpower and this can only get worse. The most sensible article I have read on the issue is in today's Daily Express page 13. It is written by Frederick Forsyth - one of the few journalists who speak the truth. It is headed - "Is virus really as bad as we are being told". He echos my sentiments exactly.
I am not the least bit worried. I have a crucifix nailed to my front door with a bundle of Garlic - so I am protected!
However - you are right. There is a growing uncertainty all across the World. There is footage of Test Centres and Hospitals worldwide posted on the internet, showing hospitals completely deserted - one poster walked right through a hospital test centre in New York and did not see a soul. Although the footage did show Italian hospitals busy, but then they generally are. A UK man who did the same thing was picked up by the Police and has just been sentenced to 12 weeks in prison charged with being a public nuisance and breaching the conditions of a lock down?? This is in accordance with the new law that has now been put into force
There has been no accurate figures of the numbers of people being home treated/ hospitalised nor of the numbers actually dying from the virus - only that the virus was present in a non-survivor.
We are told every week that the numbers in any particular area have suddenly jumped up , this information is given out uniformly every Thursday for our area??
Each of the European countries had their first case of the virus, within twenty four hours of the 29th January. The virus is said to have an incubation period of two weeks maximum. Yet it was exactly FIVE weeks later when the cases were shown to escalate alarmingly. MMh!
The number of deaths published appear to have been vastly over counted, as many nations are now revising the number down.
Mr. Forsyth ends his article on forecasting with that which I claimed only last year:
"And a last salvo at official forecasting. During the foot-and-mouth epidemic we were told to slaughter six million beasts in the national herd - and did so. Later it was confirmed not one of them need have died. It was all rubbish."
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Frederick McCarthy Forsyth, CBE (born 25 August 1938) is an English author, journalist, spy, and occasional political commentator.
duncet's post #7
"I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this happened. The problem isn't corona virus, it is the mass hysteria being whipped up by the media - and their main cheer leader the BBC. With the government afraid to veer from the BBC mantra and promising all sorts of compensation for those who fear to go - or choose not to go - to work, it is obvious that many essential industries are working with a shortage of manpower and this can only get worse. The most sensible article I have read on the issue is in today's Daily Express page 13. It is written by Frederick Forsyth - one of the few journalists who speak the truth. It is headed - "Is virus really as bad as we are being told". He echos my sentiments exactly."
Frederick Forsyth and the Express are backing the 'flatten the sombraro' model for containing the virus [AKA herd immunity].
Quoting Forsyth's article:
"So did a panicky government accept the most luridly violent prognosis from Imperial College of a national holocaust and on that basis destroy the economy? We shall certainly know in the end.
"If two million eventually catch it and 30,000 die? That would be 15,000 more than the winter flu toll - tragic but not a national crisis. And 15,000 as a percentage of our national population of 67 million is a small fraction of one percent. Too optimistic? Maybe but if Oxford is right and Imperial College wrong, government figures are haywire."
Interestingly, Anthony Costello professor of global health at UCL, in the Guardian suggests that herd immunity is effectively what we're getting, in any case! It's just that the government has bungled it twice over — not least because the NHS would quickly have been shown to be unable to cope owing to its dearth of critical care beds.
Given his age, Fred Forsyth ought to hope COVID-19 is extinguished. As things stand, there are fears that the virus' local maxima will recur. Sooner or later, Fred will go down
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Originally Posted by sandGroundZero
Frederick McCarthy Forsyth, CBE (born 25 August 1938) is an English author, journalist, spy, and occasional political commentator.
duncet's post #7
"I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this happened. The problem isn't corona virus, it is the mass hysteria being whipped up by the media - and their main cheer leader the BBC. With the government afraid to veer from the BBC mantra and promising all sorts of compensation for those who fear to go - or choose not to go - to work, it is obvious that many essential industries are working with a shortage of manpower and this can only get worse. The most sensible article I have read on the issue is in today's Daily Express page 13. It is written by Frederick Forsyth - one of the few journalists who speak the truth. It is headed - "Is virus really as bad as we are being told". He echos my sentiments exactly."
Frederick Forsyth and the Express are backing the 'flatten the sombraro' model for containing the virus [AKA herd immunity].
Quoting Forsyth's article:
"So did a panicky government accept the most luridly violent prognosis from Imperial College of a national holocaust and on that basis destroy the economy? We shall certainly know in the end.
"If two million eventually catch it and 30,000 die? That would be 15,000 more than the winter flu toll - tragic but not a national crisis. And 15,000 as a percentage of our national population of 67 million is a small fraction of one percent. Too optimistic? Maybe but if Oxford is right and Imperial College wrong, government figures are haywire."
Interestingly, Anthony Costello professor of global health at UCL, in the Guardian suggests that herd immunity is effectively what we're getting, in any case! It's just that the government has bungled it twice over — not least because the NHS would quickly have been shown to be unable to cope owing to its dearth of critical care beds.
Given his age, Fred Forsyth ought to hope COVID-19 is extinguished. As things stand, there are fears that the virus' local maxima will recur. Sooner or later, Fred will go down
The term 'herd', is not a pleasant characterisation - however, if the cap fits wear it! I most certainly won't, as I am a person, which may come as a surprise to many on here.
Imperial College:The first report on the virus was written by etidemiologist, Neil Ferguson, global infectious disease analyst. His figures are computer synthesised. In his first report he said that over 500,000 people would die. This, he has now had to revise to a maximum of 20,000. Mr. Ferguson has been criticised in the past of making assumptions based on faulty assumptions. Computer modelling is not a precise science and should never be considered as such. Mathematics can never replicate biological events, no matter how brilliant a mathematician is.
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said's post # 10: "The term 'herd', is not a pleasant characterisation - however, if the cap fits wear it! I most certainly won't, as I am a person, which may come as a surprise to many on here. Don't be obtuse; "herd immunity" is a label — it is sufficiently descriptive of the concept it's meant to convey.
You, said, are of course unique and stand outside any collectivity.
"Imperial College:The first report on the virus was written by etidemiologist, Neil Ferguson, global infectious disease analyst. His figures are computer synthesised. In his first report he said that over 500,000 people would die. This, he has now had to revise to a maximum of 20,000. Mr. Ferguson has been criticised in the past of making assumptions based on faulty assumptions. Computer modelling is not a precise science and should never be considered as such. Mathematics can never replicate biological events, no matter how brilliant a mathematician is."
Mathematical models don't attempt to "replicate biological events" — they are models because they simplify otherwise impossible complexity. Once again, you are talking out your backside.
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The wannabe Libertarians and climate change deniers are out in force tonight, with a new leader in the far right author Frederick Forsyth.
Has Farage caught coronavirus or something?
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