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Originally Posted by bambi275
No, I am not saying that at all. People are saying things will be worse when we leave so I stated why, it's not like the EU has protected us so why would it get worse?
People are insinuating that the EU somehow protects our standards of living it as you have said yourself we do that ourselves, ie, our govt sets our own policies and will continue to do so how will things be worse?
Why will it get worse?
Well the supply chain will get hugely disrupted.
America will insist on having a stake in the NHS as part of a "DEAL" with the U.K.
foreign Porters, cleaners, Nurses and doctors have already started leaving, and I can only see that getting worse as they feel more and more contempt from the "Great British" public. Many of whom appear to have been closet racists and quite vile human beings.
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Originally Posted by local
The reality is Brexiteers come from the left and right but it is not something Labour class warriors want to hear.
They like to use terms such as rabid right but are hamstrung by having a disciple of Tony Benn as leader.
Tony Benn well to the left of the Labour Party as Jeremy Corbyn are/was a brexiteers but that fact doesn't suit the remainer narrative.
So they don't like to mention it.
Of course we all know that Brexit has crossed and indeed trashed conventional party lines, rabid right has not been used in description of Brexiteers it has been used with reference to the likes of Farage and of course the cuddly, socially aware ERG and their ilk.
As Toodles says correctly Remainers very often seem to attract the very clever loony left comment.
Of course there are Brexit supporters of the left persuasion just as there are Remainers of a more right wing persuasion, however you can't deny that the most fervent proponents of Brexit, particularly no deal Brexit are very much the monetarist groups, those whose only care is the pound or millions of pounds in their pockets, these people do not care for the country nor it's people, in fact they see supporting the country as a totally unnecessary drain on their profits.
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Again, bambi, I'm not saying everyone who follows the Brexit party is a neo-Nazi. But you read stuff like this article, and you have to wonder about your leadership.
I'm sure there are communists and hard left socialists in the Labour party. I'm not one of them. But if they were in the shadow cabinet or the executive, I'd have to question my membership.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Again, bambi, I'm not saying everyone who follows the Brexit party is a neo-Nazi. But you read stuff like this article, and you have to wonder about your leadership.
I'm sure there are communists and hard left socialists in the Labour party. I'm not one of them. But if they were in the shadow cabinet or the executive, I'd have to question my membership.
But then if you look at their members list you will find that a 2nd transgender candidate has just joined,there is a Danish dentist, a Muslim candidate, a son of Pakistani immigrants, a gay GP, the list goes on and I'm not convinced that these people would choose to be in a party that would support fascism.
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Originally Posted by bambi275
But then if you look at their members list you will find that a 2nd transgender candidate has just joined,there is a Danish dentist, a Muslim candidate, a son of Pakistani immigrants, a gay GP, the list goes on and I'm not convinced that these people would choose to be in a party that would support fascism.
I hope not. I suppose time will tell. If we leave the EU, I guess there's no point in the party afterwards. Or possibly a power sharing pact with the Tories.
It's anybody's guess right now.
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We constantly get this rabid right super rich tag for all things Brexit, the reality is its demonstrably untrue.
The Brexit Party are specifically targeting former Labour strongholds in some very working class areas entirely because Labour have abandoned the working classes in their headlong rush to join the London luvvie set.
The gullible have toed the line unwittingly thinking they are somehow superior with their new Islington thinking.
Labours position in the Polls and in recent elections tell their future, despite the Conservatives facing more cliff edges than Bear Grylls they have still beaten them.
When we finally get an election it looks like Boris v Jo Swinson.
You might wonder why they cling on to Jeremy the joke, looking around the front benches for a replacement you can see why.
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