Retirement age 75.

[whiplash]

No way,that is crazy.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

No way,that is crazy.

An idea from a tory think tank headed by Iain Duncan Smith the man who thinks public funds are for his personal use.

[salus.populi]

That's "Brexit Dividends" for you.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

That's "Brexit Dividends" for you.

Tory nastiness more like.

Iain Duncan Smith has made a name for himself as well as having blood on his hands. The sick, the disabled, now it's the old foggies turn.

[salus.populi]

Tory nastiness more like.

Iain Duncan Smith has made a name for himself as well as having blood on his hands. The sick, the disabled, now it's the old foggies turn.

Oh I'm well aware of his crimes against humanity.
I do hope those Tories in favour of the return of the death penalty realise that they should well face it themselves when judgement day comes.

[ausard2]

Nope , unfortunately this reality as we just
can't afford to carry on with the present
system.

[Toodles McGinty]

Tory nastiness more like.

Iain Duncan Smith has made a name for himself as well as having blood on his hands. The sick, the disabled, now it's the old foggies turn.

Less the nasty party, more the Nazi party.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Less the nasty party, more the Nazi party.

Now, now be careful. Sensitive types might take umbrage.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Nope , unfortunately this reality as we just
can't afford to carry on with the present
system.

The state pension is a pittance!

[salus.populi]

Nope , unfortunately this reality as we just
can't afford to carry on with the present
system.

So how do we then afford the unemployment bill with millions working longer meaning younger people cannot go into those jobs whilst many more jobs will be lost to automation?
A cull of the population presumably.

[jamyramy]

The state pension is a pittance!

so so true across Europe the end of dayers fare better,am one too!fortunatly been blessed with an occupation that retirement means oops he passed at the bench .haha!but hey were all not in that position ,if the proposal is to be ,then theyed better get our health service to do just that service the populace to ensure that serviceable longevity,and get our food industry to ensure our food supply is healthy and safe to eat and not churn out crapthat with subliminal seduction to invibe!ironically then last year its was suc=ggested we should retire early to make way for opportunity for our youth to have employment futures.yet its still been revealed that our lifespan has peaked,and is now declining ,to such an extent ,that we are going to start seeing our offspring passing over earlier than ourselves current lifespans post war eons.truth ivcesvicess those of the super rich piranas arnt like their prdecessors putting back into the very system that sustains their deluded sense of superiority and exclusiveness.its a sort of culling of the populace ,by s..t life syndrome imposed upon the millions trying to get by.can you honestly say life today is better than fity years ao.when even joe soap basic job still had a few bob at the end of month to have an indulgent splurge.wasnt stressed on your day off dealing with the banal online servicses ripoff pratices.75 gonna be a long life soon.

[Little Londoner]

No doubt Hamble will put a positive spin on it like closing the mines was to protect the health of miners. Do they still have banana boats that these Tories think we have just stepped off.

[said]

That's "Brexit Dividends" for you.

No - it is inevitable! During the seventies/eighties/nineties people were working full time and paying full taxes that went into the Government pension fund. Those people are now receiving the pensions they paid into. After that period, the UK received a large number of immigrants who entered the service industry on low pay, paying no or minimum taxes. In addition, they have also received top up benefits in the form of tax credits. There are thousands more British people in part time/zero hours work, short term contracts, etc., paying little or no taxes. There is also a one off grant for people having a child of £500 per child which is not taxed. Large numbers of immigrants as well as British mothers have been awarded this money. With fewer people working full time in well paid jobs, paying taxes to support all these additional payments there is less being paid into the pension fund. The once young immigrants will also grow old and will also require a pension this means that more people will need pensions than would have before immigration to the UK. Employers have had to contribute more for each employee and the contributions have actually increased to take into account future increases in pensions numbers and also pension increases.
However - those people who opted out of the state retirement pension and opted for a private personal pension instead are likely to lose out - this accounts for about 4.5 million people. This scandal can be read in a report from the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...s.jobsandmoney

In addition rules concerning men and women should be treated equally - women have given up the right to retire before their male counterparts:
"In Case C-109/91 "Ten Oever" (judgment of 6 October 1993), the Court
confirms that Article 119 applies to survivors' benefits provided by an
occupational social security scheme with effect from 17 May 1990 and
discrimination between men and women is no longer permitted from that date
as regards the granting of such benefits." EU Commission,Employment Rights.

As for retirement at 75? All very well if you are employed in a desk job,
pottering about doing simple tasks - but you are in a bit of a jam if you are doing
manual labour.

[said]

So how do we then afford the unemployment bill with millions working longer meaning younger people cannot go into those jobs whilst many more jobs will be lost to automation?
A cull of the population presumably.

Interesting thought!

[ausard2]

Wake up, not nice but reality. We bring the kids up
and they look after us in twilight years.
It happens in third world countries , maybe
they're ahead of us.