No-deal or...... Corbyn?

**jonboi** · 02/09/2019 05:54 PM

The PM Mr Johnson argues that if Conservative MP’s rebel against his no-deal option in a coming no confidence vote, that this would open the door for a Corbyn Government in a forced general election. My thoughts on this are that if we leave the EU with no-deal, the economy of this country will tank overnight, we’ll be desperate to find trade deals and, being over a barrel, will accept them from where we can resulting in lowering of our currently enjoyed high and safe standards, and opening the UK up to trade deals with aggressive US Corporations who have been eyeing our NHS with the dollar signs spinning. Given that situation I’d sooner see a Corbyn Government as you can reverse that in a future election. You can’t reverse leaving the EU with no-deal!

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**Hamble** · 02/09/2019 06:27 PM

No Deal.

Boris can always pull the Foreign Aid Budget.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-fore...nt-spend-2017/

**silver fox** · 02/09/2019 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Hamble

No Deal.

Boris can always pull the Foreign Aid Budget.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-fore...nt-spend-2017/

Wouldn't worry about the Foreign Aid Budget, leave with no deal and we will be in need of Foreign Aid being paid to us, as developing countries take pity on a broken Britain.

**birdbath** · 02/09/2019 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hamble

No Deal.

Boris can always pull the Foreign Aid Budget.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-fore...nt-spend-2017/

A true Tory: you're all heart.

**Hamble** · 02/09/2019 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by birdbath

A true Tory: you're all heart.

It will need a review after Brexit as a percentage is channelled through the EU.
Some Foreign Aid is ending up in the hands of terrorist groups.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...y-report-finds

**local** · 02/09/2019 07:42 PM

A general election would sort nothing and is a waste of time.

Corbyn will lose badly the Liberal Undemocrats will get some protest votes and Boris's vote will be undermined by the Brexit Party.

When the dust settles the reality is a referendum result still has to be respected.

Corbyns Labour Party is an incredible 12-14 points behind in the polls against a single seat majority Conservative government propped up by the Unionists.

For many people Boris's new dog will decide their vote.

**silver fox** · 02/09/2019 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by local

A general election would sort nothing and is a waste of time.

Corbyn will lose badly the Liberal Undemocrats will get some protest votes and Boris's vote will be undermined by the Brexit Party.

When the dust settles the reality is a referendum result still has to be respected.

Corbyns Labour Party is an incredible 12-14 points behind in the polls against a single seat majority Conservative government propped up by the Unionists.

For many people Boris's new dog will decide their vote.

The sad thing is you're probably right, many will think Johnson has just taken in a dog from a rescue centre, must be OK.

**said** · 02/09/2019 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by jonboi

The PM Mr Johnson argues that if Conservative MP’s rebel against his no-deal option in a coming no confidence vote, that this would open the door for a Corbyn Government in a forced general election. My thoughts on this are that if we leave the EU with no-deal, the economy of this country will tank overnight, we’ll be desperate to find trade deals and, being over a barrel, will accept them from where we can resulting in lowering of our currently enjoyed high and safe standards, and opening the UK up to trade deals with aggressive US Corporations who have been eyeing our NHS with the dollar signs spinning. Given that situation I’d sooner see a Corbyn Government as you can reverse that in a future election. You can’t reverse leaving the EU with no-deal!

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There are a good number of deals already waiting to go ahead once we are out of the EU and more talks are in the pipeline with other countries. You really think the US would decline a trade deal and risk all its companies here in the UK - I think not! You should have more faith in our country - this is an exciting time and we can look forward to a far better future than if we had been held back by the outdated EU regime.

**birdbath** · 02/09/2019 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hamble

It will need a review after Brexit as a percentage is channelled through the EU.
Some Foreign Aid is ending up in the hands of terrorist groups.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...y-report-finds

However much of the budget is misspent is, surely, down to poor supervision.
Cuts to aid are indefensible whilst claims of economic success are continually made by the govt.

**said** · 02/09/2019 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by birdbath

However much of the budget is misspent is, surely, down to poor supervision.
Cuts to aid are indefensible whilst claims of economic success are continually made by the govt.

Nothing that happens in government is by chance - it is all planned!

**local** · 02/09/2019 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by said

Nothing that happens in government is by chance - it is all planned!

They must have one hell of a crystal ball or is lots of tea. ?

**said** · 02/09/2019 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by local

They must have one hell of a crystal ball or is lots of tea. ?

Ha!Ha! By the amount of alcohol that is delivered to the houses of parliament - I would not think they use tea.

**Hamble** · 02/09/2019 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by birdbath

However much of the budget is misspent is, surely, down to poor supervision.
Cuts to aid are indefensible whilst claims of economic success are continually made by the govt.

Yes on paper.
In reality the monies go to Foreign Government of which the UK or EU will
have no control.
It often takes the media to expose corruption.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42217132

**Alikado** · 03/09/2019 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by birdbath

However much of the budget is misspent is, surely, down to poor supervision.
Cuts to aid are indefensible whilst claims of economic success are continually made by the govt.

Thar is the idea of the Foreign Aid budget, it is not to help the poor and desparate but to grease palms and interfere in other countries affairs, that is why the Government is so protective of it.

**Little Londoner** · 03/09/2019 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by birdbath

However much of the budget is misspent is, surely, down to poor supervision.
Cuts to aid are indefensible whilst claims of economic success are continually made by the govt.

Defend sending aid to Countries who have a space programme nuclear weapons and £billionaires buying up British Industries and production plants??
I can't wait for your response.

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