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Is China hiding COVID-19 death toll? 21 million cell phones disappeared,
An interesting factual article !
21 million cell phone accounts in China were cancelled after coronavirus
840,000 landlines were closed in China
This sudden drop suggests a very high Coronavirus death toll
https://www.ibtimes.sg/china-hiding-...ared-why-41580
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Originally Posted by *concerned*
I would suggest that the outbreak caused too much World attention being given to China which Xi Jinping did not want. I have given the links to a video in an earlier topic to show the situation in China. It is far more likely that millions of people have had their phones confiscated, these will be checked over and any which have sensitive information on them - particularly about jinping - will result in severe pubishment. Look at the video - it really is an eye opener.
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Originally Posted by *concerned*
Factual ?
But recently Beijing authorities announced on March 19 that more than 21 million cell phone accounts were cancelled while in past three months 840,000 landlines were closed in China, which gives an idea that probably these closed numbers belonged to the people who died due to the disease.
That's an awful lot of bodies to hide ?
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Lancet editor says NHS was left unprepared for Covid-19
Richard Horton, editor, writing in [The Lancet] :“ The UK Government's Contain–Delay–Mitigate–Research strategy failed. It failed, in part, because ministers didn't follow WHO's advice to “test, test, test” every suspected case. They didn't isolate and quarantine. They didn't contact trace. These basic principles of public health and infectious disease control were ignored, for reasons that remain opaque. The UK now has a new plan—Suppress–Shield–Treat–Palliate. But this plan, agreed far too late in the course of the outbreak, has left the NHS wholly unprepared for the surge of severely and critically ill patients that will soon come.” Copyright © 2020 Elsevier Inc. except certain content provided by third parties.
Last edited by sandGroundZero; 28/03/2020 at 07:26 AM.
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Originally Posted by sandGroundZero
Richard Horton, editor, writing in [The Lancet] : “ The UK Government's Contain–Delay–Mitigate–Research strategy failed. It failed, in part, because ministers didn't follow WHO's advice to “test, test, test” every suspected case. They didn't isolate and quarantine. They didn't contact trace. These basic principles of public health and infectious disease control were ignored, for reasons that remain opaque. The UK now has a new plan—Suppress–Shield–Treat–Palliate. But this plan, agreed far too late in the course of the outbreak, has left the NHS wholly unprepared for the surge of severely and critically ill patients that will soon come.” Copyright © 2020 Elsevier Inc. except certain content provided by third parties.
There have been a large number of facilities both here and in the USA that have been carrying out regular research on the possible outcomes of a pandemic since 2013. Many reports have been published on the internet. Talks and discussions with top experts in both security and the medical field, and also with the general public have taken place and computer simulations have been carried out repeatedly. The only unknown factor in all these expected scenarios has been the human element.
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.o.../about-clade-x
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
https://www.contagionlive.com/news/j...c-health-watch
https://ec.europa.eu/research/press/2006/pr0702en.cfm
https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...ranscripts.pdf
https://www.epa.gov
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Richard Horton is unfortunately trying to make a name for himself and prey on the witless to do it, just how any country is supposed to suddenly test every suspected case for a new virus he doesn't explain.
Coughing, temperatures and other associated symptoms are quite the norm at this time of year.
Wouldn't it be better if he did something more constructive ?
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…yes; but what is your point, exactly?
said's post #7:
"There have been a large number of facilities both here and in the USA that have been carrying out regular research on the possible outcomes of a pandemic since 2013. Many reports have been published on the internet. Talks and discussions with top experts in both security and the medical field, and also with the general public have taken place and computer simulations have been carried out repeatedly. The only unknown factor in all these expected scenarios has been the human element." …and government chose to ignore the advice with the consequence that it was on the back foot when the contagion spread out of China.
Are you attempting to deflect the observation that the government was advised and it ignored that advice? Why so? Is your ideological commitment fragile?
Meanwhile, local chooses to traduce the messenger!
"Richard Horton is unfortunately trying to make a name for himself and prey on the witless to do it, …"
That's low, even for an ideologue.
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Originally Posted by sandGroundZero
said's post #7: "There have been a large number of facilities both here and in the USA that have been carrying out regular research on the possible outcomes of a pandemic since 2013. Many reports have been published on the internet. Talks and discussions with top experts in both security and the medical field, and also with the general public have taken place and computer simulations have been carried out repeatedly. The only unknown factor in all these expected scenarios has been the human element." …and government chose to ignore the advice with the consequence that it was on the back foot when the contagion spread out of China.
Are you attempting to deflect the observation that the government was advised and it ignored that advice? Why so? Is your ideological commitment fragile?
Meanwhile, local chooses to traduce the messenger!
"Richard Horton is unfortunately trying to make a name for himself and prey on the witless to do it, …"
That's low, even for an ideologue.
No, my friend - you will have to follow through on the information that I have provided. Many on here request links - but when you lead them to the trough - you can't force them to drink from it!
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Originally Posted by sandGroundZero
said's post #7:
"There have been a large number of facilities both here and in the USA that have been carrying out regular research on the possible outcomes of a pandemic since 2013. Many reports have been published on the internet. Talks and discussions with top experts in both security and the medical field, and also with the general public have taken place and computer simulations have been carried out repeatedly. The only unknown factor in all these expected scenarios has been the human element." …and government chose to ignore the advice with the consequence that it was on the back foot when the contagion spread out of China.
Are you attempting to deflect the observation that the government was advised and it ignored that advice? Why so? Is your ideological commitment fragile?
Meanwhile, local chooses to traduce the messenger!
"Richard Horton is unfortunately trying to make a name for himself and prey on the witless to do it, …"
That's low, even for an ideologue.
Reach for the dictionary and look up messenger then re read Horton who is the author.
Oh and idealogue (one o) while your at it
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…the message: 'prepare for an epidemic'
messenger noun
someone who takes a message or documents from one person to another
ideologue noun formal
a person who believes very strongly in particular principles and tries to follow them carefully
© Cambridge University Press 2020 What dictionary do you use?
Last edited by sandGroundZero; 28/03/2020 at 03:16 PM.
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Originally Posted by local
That's an awful lot of bodies to hide ?
They'll eat anything.
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
They'll eat anything.
It's nothing unusual, it is just what is available locally, they probably think things that we eat in this country are disgusting, pigs trotters, tongue, tripe, jellied eels, whelks, prawns, shrimps, crabs act.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
It's nothing unusual, it is just what is available locally, they probably think things that we eat in this country are disgusting, pigs trotters, tongue, tripe, jellied eels, whelks, prawns, shrimps, crabs act.
They like cockles
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…lead them to the trough
said's post:
No, my friend - you will have to follow through on the information that I have provided. Many on here request links - but when you lead them to the trough - you can't force them to drink from it!
said, You create diversion:
"Many on here request links - but …" misinformation is your stock-in-trade — No one is deceived!
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Originally Posted by sandGroundZero
messenger noun
someone who takes a message or documents from one person to another
ideologue noun formal
a person who believes very strongly in particular principles and tries to follow them carefully
© Cambridge University Press 2020 What dictionary do you use?
Well now you have looked it up you can do a bit of editing
If you still confused ask for help.
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