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    Human Rights or Privileges

    By The Human Rights Act 1998 your human rights are protected from Birth to Death. No-one has the right to take away these rights!

    But these rights can be restricted in the interests of National Security, etc., so, if these rights can be restricted by as third person, i.e. the Government - does that mean that our Human Rights are not really 'Rights' that they are 'privileges'?

    At present our Human Rights have been restricted. It may be argued that this is in the National Interest. But the UK has experienced several epidemics and we have never been restricted before, even though some of the epidemics have been even more lethal.

    NOTE: Successive governments have been considering ways to abolish the Human Rights act for several years.





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    Which of your rights under the HRA are being 'restricted'?

    The HRA is going to be repealed anyway, so why worry about it? Isn't that what you wanted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    so, if these rights can be restricted by as third person, i.e. the Government - does that mean that our Human Rights are not really 'Rights' that they are 'privileges'?
    Looks like it's part of this Govt's plan to 'take back control'.
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    Coronavirus …has revealed the nature of power

    An extract from a recent newspaper article:
    These are the questions that have always preoccupied political theorists. But now they are not so theoretical. As the current crisis shows, the primary fact that underpins political existence is that some people get to tell others what to do. At the heart of all modern politics is a trade-off between personal liberty and collective choice. This is the Faustian bargain identified by the philosopher Thomas Hobbes in the middle of the 17th century, when the country was being torn apart by a real civil war.
    As Hobbes knew, to exercise political rule is to have the power of life and death over citizens. The only reason we would possibly give anyone that power is because we believe it is the price we pay for our collective safety. But it also means that we are entrusting life-and-death decisions to people we cannot ultimately control.

    David Runciman is professor of politics at Cambridge University
    © 2020 Guardian News & Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandGroundZero View Post
    An extract from a recent newspaper article:
    These are the questions that have always preoccupied political theorists. But now they are not so theoretical. As the current crisis shows, the primary fact that underpins political existence is that some people get to tell others what to do. At the heart of all modern politics is a trade-off between personal liberty and collective choice. This is the Faustian bargain identified by the philosopher Thomas Hobbes in the middle of the 17th century, when the country was being torn apart by a real civil war.
    As Hobbes knew, to exercise political rule is to have the power of life and death over citizens. The only reason we would possibly give anyone that power is because we believe it is the price we pay for our collective safety. But it also means that we are entrusting life-and-death decisions to people we cannot ultimately control.

    David Runciman is professor of politics at Cambridge University
    © 2020 Guardian News & Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.

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    True, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    By The Human Rights Act 1998 your human rights are protected from Birth to Death. No-one has the right to take away these rights!

    But these rights can be restricted in the interests of National Security, etc., so, if these rights can be restricted by as third person, i.e. the Government - does that mean that our Human Rights are not really 'Rights' that they are 'privileges'?

    At present our Human Rights have been restricted. It may be argued that this is in the National Interest. But the UK has experienced several epidemics and we have never been restricted before, even though some of the epidemics have been even more lethal.

    NOTE: Successive governments have been considering ways to abolish the Human Rights act for several years.
    Don't know why you bring this up? This is the sort of thing you Brexiteers voted for, you know get rid of all that restrictive EU red tape like Human Rights, Employment Rights, Health and Safety at work etc;etc:

    Sure we know that present restrictions are due to a particular situation, just as long as the government remember to repeal them all, when this is all over.

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