Here is your chance

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Those people who claim that they support Remaining in the EU, why not give your reasons for wanting to do so - clearly, on this site once and for all. All those who support Brexit will respond. This is basically how the Brexit movement started with people having logical discussions for one side or the other. So what reasons do you have for Remaining in the EU, did you put forward your argument at the time of the referendum?
Let's see who has the stronger argument - as if we don't know!

[Ceam]

Those people who claim that they support Remaining in the EU, why not give your reasons for wanting to do so - clearly, on this site once and for all. All those who support Brexit will respond. This is basically how the Brexit movement started with people having logical discussions for one side or the other. So what reasons do you have for Remaining in the EU, did you put forward your argument at the time of the referendum?
Let's see who has the stronger argument - as if we don't know!

Why not just look through the multiple threads already on the subject?

[Hamble]

Own up you lovers of cheap labour and population expansion.


https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/what-is-the-problem

[said]

Why not just look through the multiple threads already on the subject?

I have. No-one has put forward any logical reasons. Since there are more on this site than elsewhere supporting Remain, it would be a good idea to discover what made these people vote for Remain. Where the topic has been touched on, on this site - it has not been discussed in full. So - do you have any real reasons?

[said]

Own up you lovers of cheap labour and population expansion.


https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/what-is-the-problem

Ha!Ha! Do you know I think this site will remain blank - there are several complaints about Brexit, but no-one wants to say why.

[Hamble]

Ha!Ha! Do you know I think this site will remain blank - there are several complaints about Brexit, but no-one wants to say why.

What's not to like about migrant slave labour and public services rationing?

[Ceam]

I have. No-one has put forward any logical reasons. Since there are more on this site than elsewhere supporting Remain, it would be a good idea to discover what made these people vote for Remain. Where the topic has been touched on, on this site - it has not been discussed in full. So - do you have any real reasons?

You have got to be kidding.

Trade not only within Europe but world wide as a large group of European nations, Security, freedom of movement, N.I. boarder, product speed through customs(fresh food). How many reasons do you want.

[Toodles McGinty]

1. Membership of the world’s largest trading bloc with over 500 million consumers, representing 23% of global GDP
   
2. The UK has greater global influence as a member of the EU
   
3. The EU provides a counterweight to the global power of the US, Russia and China
   
4. With Trump in the White House the UK’s strongest natural allies are France, Germany and our other West European neighbours
   
5. Tariff-free trade within the EU
   
6. The abolition of non-tariff barriers (quotas, subsidies, administrative rules etc.) among members
   
7. Participation in free trade agreements with Japan and Canada as an EU member
   
8. The EU accounts for 44% of all UK exports of goods and services
   
9. The EU accounts for 53% of all UK imports of goods and services
   
10. Cheaper food and alcohol imports from continental Europe
    
11. As a member of the EU the UK maintains a say in the shaping of the rules governing its trade with its European partners
    
12. 3.1 million jobs in the UK are directly linked to exports to the EU
    
13. Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers)
    
14. Free movement of labour has helped address shortages of unskilled workers (fruit picking, catering)
    
15. The Single Market has brought the best continental footballers to the Premier League
    
16. The EU accounts for 47% of the UK’s stock of inward Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), worth over $1.2 trillion
    
17. Access to the EU Single Market has helped attract investment into the UK from outside the EU
    
18. No paperwork or customs for UK exports throughout the single market
    
19. Price transparency and removal of commissions on currency transactions across the Eurozone
    
20. FDI into the UK has effectively doubled since the creation of the EU Single Market
    
21. The UK’s net contribution to the EU budget is around €7.3bn, or 0.4% of GDP (less than an eighth of the UK’s defence spending)
    
22. No time consuming border checks for travellers (apart from in the UK)
    
23. The City of London, as a global financial hub, has acted as a bridge between foreign business and the EU
    
24. British banks and insurance companies have been able to operate freely across the EU
    
25. Cornwall receives up to £750 million per year from the EU Social Fund (ESF)
    
26. Structural funding for areas of the UK hit by industrial decline (South Wales, Yorkshire)
    
27. Support for rural areas under the European Agricultural Fund for Regional Development (EAFRD)
    
28. EU funding for infrastructure projects in the UK including £122 million for the “Midlands engine” project
    
29. Financial support from the EU for over 3,000 small and medium enterprises (SMEs) in the UK
    
30. EU funding for the British film industry
    
31. EU funding for British theatre, music and dance
    
32. EU funding for British sport, including football apprenticeships, tennis and rugby league
    
33. Glasgow (1990) and Liverpool (2008) benefitted from being European capitals of culture, stimulating their local economies
    
34. EU competition laws protect consumers by combatting monopolistic business practices
    
35. Strict controls on the operations of Multinational Corporations (MNCs) in the EU
    
36. Human Rights protected under the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights
    
37. The death penalty can never be reintroduced as it is incompatible with EU membership
    
38. Minority languages such as Welsh and Irish are recognized and protected under EU law
    
39. The right to reside in any EU member state
    
40. The freedom to work in 28 countries without visa and immigration restrictions
    
41. The mutual recognition of professional qualifications has facilitated the free movement of engineers, teachers and doctors across the EU
    
42. The mutual recognition of educational diplomas
    
43. The Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR) has standardized assessment of language proficiency across the EU
    
44. The freedom to study in 28 countries (many EU universities teach courses in English and charge lower fees than in the UK)
    
45. The Erasmus programme of university exchanges (benefitting 16000 UK students a year)
    
46. The freedom to set up a business in 28 countries
    
47. The ability to retire in any member state
    
48. Pension transferability
    
49. The right to vote in local and European Parliamentary elections if resident in any member state
    
50. EU laws making it easier for British people to buy property on the continent
    
51. The right to receive emergency healthcare in any member state (EHIC card)
    
52. Consular protection from any EU embassy outside the EU
    
53. The EU has played a leading role in combatting global warming (Paris 2015 climate change conference)
    
54. Common EU greenhouse gas emissions targets (19% reduction from 1990 to 2015)
    
55. Improvements in air quality (significant reductions in sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxides) as a result of EU legislation
    
56. Reductions in sewage emissions
    
57. Improvements in the quality of beaches and bathing water
    
58. EU standards on the quality of drinking water
    
59. Restrictions on landfill dumping
    
60. EU targets for recycling
    
61. Common EU regulations on the transportation and disposal of toxic waste
    
62. The implementation of EU policies to reduce noise pollution in urban areas
    
63. EU policies have stimulated offshore wind farms
    
64. Strict safety standards for cars, buses and trucks
    
65. Protection of endangered species and habitats (EU Natura 2000 network)
    
66. Strict ban on animal testing in the cosmetics industry
    
67. Membership of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) which monitors the quality and safety of medicines (until recently located in London)
    
68. 13% of EU budget earmarked for scientific research and innovation
    
69. The UK receives £730 million a year in EU funding for research
    
70. EU funding for UK universities
    
71. Cooperation in the peaceful use of nuclear energy as a member of Euratom
    
72. Minimum paid annual leave and time off work (Working Time Directive)
    
73. Equal pay between men and women enshrined in European law since 1957
    
74. The right to work no more than 48 hours a week without paid overtime
    
75. Minimum guaranteed maternity leave of 14 weeks for pregnant women
    
76. Rights to a minimum 18 weeks of parental leave after child birth
    
77. EU anti-discrimination laws governing age, religion and sexual orientation
    
78. EU rules governing health and safety at work
    
79. The rights to collective bargaining and trade union membership are enshrined in EU employment law
    
80. The UK enjoys an opt out from the single currency and maintains full control of its borders as a non-member of the Schengen area
    
81. Since 1985 the UK has received a budget rebate equivalent to 66% of its net contribution to the EU budget
    
82. EU cross-country coordination offers greater protection from terrorists, pedophiles, people traffickers and cyber-crime
    
83. The European common arrest warrant
    
84. Europe-wide patent and copyright protection
    
85. EU consumer protection laws concerning transparency and product guarantees of quality and safety
    
86. Improved food labeling
    
87. A ban on growth hormones and other harmful food additives
    
88. Cheaper air travel due to EU competition laws
    
89. Common EU air passenger rights
    
90. Deregulation of the European energy market has increased consumer choice and lowered prices
    
91. Mutual recognition of the common European driving license
    
92. The introduction of the European pet passport
    
93. The abolition of mobile telephone roaming charges
    
94. The EU acts as a guarantor of the Irish Good Friday Agreement
    
95. A frictionless Irish border
    
96. The EU acts as a guarantor of the special status of Gibraltar
    
97. The EU helped support and maintain democracy in Spain, Portugal and Greece from the 1970s and these countries have become major destinations for British tourists
    
98. EU membership has helped facilitate intercultural dialogue

[Ceam]

Come on you're 2 short.


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99. Coming out of the E.U. Makes Germany and France stronger with in the E.U. As along with us we where the big 3, Now the big 2.

[Hamble]

13.Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers).

I am glad they put translators in.

15.The Single Market has brought the best continental footballers to the Premier League.

39.The right to reside in any EU member state.
40.The freedom to work in 28 countries without visa and immigration restrictions (sf loves that one)

47.The ability to retire in any member state.

[Albion102]

That's all very logical, but people vote with their hearts not their heads.

That is the great fault of the remainers, they categorise all brexiteers as thick. They simply misunderstand politics and why people vote they way that they do. They lacked the emotional levers.

[silver fox]

Own up you lovers of cheap labour and population expansion.


https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/what-is-the-problem

How often does it need to be said, non EU immigration has always exceeded EU immigration and is currently still increasing, that has everything to do with our own government and the desire for cheap labour, more and more EU nationals are heading back home, because of Brexit uncertainty, improved employment prospects in their home countries, the value of the £sterling is now less attractive, but according to Brexiteers all will be well just as soon as we quit the EU.

All will not be well until our own government clamps down on, preferably bans, zero hour contracts, gangmaster labour, umbrella/payroll companies and dodgy agencies, all that will happen is these parasites will continue to bring in cheap labour from wherever to satisfy employers who don't wish to actually employ anyone.

[silver fox]

13.Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers).

I am glad they put translators in.

15.The Single Market has brought the best continental footballers to the Premier League.

39.The right to reside in any EU member state.
40.The freedom to work in 28 countries without visa and immigration restrictions (sf loves that one)

47.The ability to retire in any member state.

No 39, I have no problem with those coming to work here, I have every problem you can name with how too many of this people are shipped in to fill cheap labour positions.

[silver fox]

Ha!Ha! Do you know I think this site will remain blank - there are several complaints about Brexit, but no-one wants to say why.

Toodles has done your research for you, (beat me to it and did a better job), now you were saying?????

Brexiteers want to simply bin all of that and replace it with what precisely? right now not one of the EU deals has been rolled over, remember that promise? there are no plans in place for after Brexit aside from the panic stations of trying to arrange additional transport, stockpiling goods expected to be delayed, not a semblance of smooth anything, in fact no prospects, no plans, no proposals, no clues or should that be not a bloody clue.

Brexiteers offer nothing worthy of the name, apart from this concept of freedom, does it never occur to all these independence, freedom loving, delusional people, that quite simply we will still be dependent on Europe for a great deal of essential supplies, but of course we will put in extra power cables across the Atlantic and bring in electrical power from the USA to replace the energy coming from France we will of course from now on produce our own food, our own motor industry, seize back our railways from the French and German nationalised rail companies.

Brexiteers offer nothing but an emotional fix which bears no comparison with reality, fine when it's a vote for something as pointless as say X Factor, but somewhat unnerving when it's the future of the country.

[Hamble]

How often does it need to be said, non EU immigration has always exceeded EU immigration and is currently still increasing, that has everything to do with our own government and the desire for cheap labour, more and more EU nationals are heading back home, because of Brexit uncertainty, improved employment prospects in their home countries, the value of the £sterling is now less attractive, but according to Brexiteers all will be well just as soon as we quit the EU.

All will not be well until our own government clamps down on, preferably bans, zero hour contracts, gangmaster labour, umbrella/payroll companies and dodgy agencies, all that will happen is these parasites will continue to bring in cheap labour from wherever to satisfy employers who don't wish to actually employ anyone.

2.4 million immigrants entered the EU from non-EU countries in 2017.

22.3 million people (4.4 %) of the 512.4 million people living in the EU on 1 January 2018 were non-EU citizens.

EU Member States granted citizenship to 825 thousand persons in 2017.


https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...ion_statistics