Collusion With The EU

[said]

It has been suggested that May has been deluding the British public and has been colluding with the EU even before her time in office. This appears to be supported by the numerous delays in actually leaving the highly damaging EU. (Now presumed to be 31st October) There is no reason why the UK cannot just leave the EU without any deal.

"She has once again deployed her resources ruthlessly against her own party members, in total contrast to the way she lay down before Barnier’s demands. She hopes to bombard Tory MPs with wall-to-wall media attack, notably by her BBC supporters, and bounce them into a Project Fear vote for her, as if she were the safe and steady, strong and stable, option against the mad Brexiteers."

"Delay has been a crucial ingredient of the May plan of bullying MPs into a deeply pro-EU settlement."

"As we ponder the choreography of deferral as the way of buffering resistance to ‘her’ plan, which is continuing even now, it’s hard not to conclude that she has been working for EU officialdom, never against it."

"Whether or not Theresa May is being ‘played’ and is just a glove puppet for cleverer handlers who are ruthless implementers of the EU ideology, she is fulfilling the vision of a UK regulated by Brussels – a region of the EU along with its fishing grounds and a nation state only in a ghostly form" ConWom.

[salus.populi]

There is no reason why the UK cannot just leave the EU without any deal.

Apart from the fact it would be a national disaster.

[silver fox]

Apart from the fact it would be a national disaster.

Farage and his ilk think it's a good idea, therefore Said thinks it's a good idea.

For me the most noticeable thing is simply the main no deal screechers are all wealthy and very right wing, does anyone ask why? these people care little for the country and the majority of the population don't count at all with them.

[Toodles McGinty]

It has been suggested that May has been deluding the British public and has been colluding with the EU even before her time in office. ....

Suggested by a reputable, balanced source? Or 'The Conservative Woman', slightly more right wing than Mussolini? Backed by that centrist tome 'Guido Fawkes'?

Anything less than hanging Jean-Claude Juncker from the nearest lamp post is a betrayal to these swivel-eyed bints.

Quite simply if she was colluding with the EU, she'd have ensured Cameron got his deal through before a referendum was even suggested.

I loathe May and all she stands for, but that statement, in short, is utter horse crap.

[said]

Suggested by a reputable, balanced source? Or 'The Conservative Woman', slightly more right wing than Mussolini? Backed by that centrist tome 'Guido Fawkes'?

Anything less than hanging Jean-Claude Juncker from the nearest lamp post is a betrayal to these swivel-eyed bints.

Quite simply if she was colluding with the EU, she'd have ensured Cameron got his deal through before a referendum was even suggested.

I loathe May and all she stands for, but that statement, in short, is utter horse crap.

It is possible that the statements given from ConWom are less than accurate - but with an understanding that the statements do appear to support the Brexit issues.

How do you view The Trumpet - is that a creditable magazine? This states: "Germany leads this European empire because it knows how empires are built. It recently had to build its own empire. At the end of the Napoleonic Wars, in 1814, there was not a nation called Germany. There were 39 German-speaking states. Prussia, one of the largest and most powerful of these states, forged these competing regions into the German Empire—the Second Reich. This method of empire-building set a pattern that Germany tried to follow in both world wars. It is a pattern that has been followed by the European Union. This history proves that the EU is no mere trading agreement. It is a path to a new German empire." (Reich = Empire)


"In 1943, the German ministers Joachim von Ribbentrop and Cecil von Renthe-Fink eventually proposed the creation of a "European confederacy" as part of a New Order on the continent. The proposal, which attracted little support from the Nazi leadership, would have had a single currency, a central bank in Berlin, a regional principle, a labour policy and economic and trading agreements but left all states clearly subordinated to Nazi Germany.^[13] The countries proposed for inclusion were Germany, Italy, France, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Slovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Greece and Spain. Such a German-led Europe, it was hoped, would serve as a strong alternative to the Communist Soviet Union and the United States.^[13] It is worth noting that the Benelux countries are omitted from the list of proposed countries, as their future integration into the German Reich had already been decided." Mmmh?

[local]

Well this is for those who think mistakenly think Brexit is a toffs plaything

this is an amusing piece from that well known right wing rich supporting rag !!!



If they think the people of Britain will quail at the prospect of “no deal” – when actually the country voted to leave as soon as possible – they have another think coming. But now is the time for the people to make that clear, to show their anger. It’s time to force the government to do what it said it would do, in the teeth of the Remain majority in parliament and indeed the cabinet.





https://www.cpbml.org.uk/news/lets-get-leaving



The clue hopefully for those who still think Brexit is only for the Moggs of this world and why Jeremy isn't exactly beating the door of the EU down to stay.

[seivad]

How do you view The Trumpet - is that a creditable magazine?

What do you think?

https://www.thetrumpet.com/about

"What makes us special? We use a single overarching criterion that sets us apart from other news sources and keeps us focused on what truly is important. That criterion is Bible prophecy. We show how current events, trends and developments are fulfilling specific Bible prophecies that describe world conditions prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ"

[seivad]

How do you view The Trumpet

Just scrolled down on the article you C&Pd from The Trumpet. Now that I've finally stopped laughing, I can C&P a bit of it on here for your enjoyment.

https://www.thetrumpet.com/17571-the...european-union

European Union in Bible Prophecy

The Bible also describes a vision of a European empire that is repeatedly resurrected. Revelation 17 describes a “beast,” a biblical symbol for a powerful empire. This beast, it says, would be led by “seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come” (verse 10). This means that these kings rule consecutively. At the time this prophecy was revealed, five were gone, one was on the scene, and one more was to come.

The start of Revelation 17 makes clear this beast is led by a woman, which is the biblical symbol for a church.

This prophecy perfectly matches the history of Europe. Europe has seen a succession of empires, all sharing the same vision and all led by a church. Hitler led the sixth of these. The seventh will rise out of the European Union.

This is why this history is critical. These empires in Europe are all connected. By learning about the ones that have come before, we can learn about the empire that is coming next.

The Bible also makes clear that economics plays a huge role in the union. When the seventh empire finally falls, “the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her” because they “were made rich by her” (Revelation 18:11, 15).

The Old Testament often refers to this empire as “Tyre.” This was the greatest trading center of the Middle East at the time that these Bible prophecies were written. Some of the prophecies about Tyre have not yet been fulfilled, because they refer not to this ancient city—but to a future economic empire.

[Toodles McGinty]

It is possible that the statements given from ConWom are less than accurate - but with an understanding that the statements do appear to support the Brexit issues.

How do you view The Trumpet - is that a creditable magazine?

Obviously not. Do you? Seriously?

Godwin's Law after 5 posts?

The logical conclusion of your theory is that our Prime Minister is colluding with a long term Nazi plan to control the continent of Europe. Are you out of your mind?

The EU / Nazi myth has been debunked over and over.

I'd wager that either the feeble minded, the xenophobic, or the rabid anti-EU evangelists, can be persuaded that the European Union is linked to Hitler's Germany simply because that country is the largest in Europe in population terms. So they have the greater number of MEPs. Although those same people will state that MEPs have no power and the civil servants run the EU. And none of those three most powerful posts is held by a German.

It simply doesn't add up.

But then, your posts rarely do.

[Alikado]

Well this is for those who think mistakenly think Brexit is a toffs plaything

this is an amusing piece from that well known right wing rich supporting rag !!!



If they think the people of Britain will quail at the prospect of “no deal” – when actually the country voted to leave as soon as possible – they have another think coming. But now is the time for the people to make that clear, to show their anger. It’s time to force the government to do what it said it would do, in the teeth of the Remain majority in parliament and indeed the cabinet.





https://www.cpbml.org.uk/news/lets-get-leaving



The clue hopefully for those who still think Brexit is only for the Moggs of this world and why Jeremy isn't exactly beating the door of the EU down to stay.

Nobody apart from the Toffs think that Brexit is their plaything, far from it, 90% of the UK citizens realise that it is probably the most important event of their life, only the No Deal Fantasists don't.

[said]

Obviously not. Do you? Seriously?

Godwin's Law after 5 posts?

The logical conclusion of your theory is that our Prime Minister is colluding with a long term Nazi plan to control the continent of Europe. Are you out of your mind?

The EU / Nazi myth has been debunked over and over.

I'd wager that either the feeble minded, the xenophobic, or the rabid anti-EU evangelists, can be persuaded that the European Union is linked to Hitler's Germany simply because that country is the largest in Europe in population terms. So they have the greater number of MEPs. Although those same people will state that MEPs have no power and the civil servants run the EU. And none of those three most powerful posts is held by a German.

It simply doesn't add up.

But then, your posts rarely do.

The first part was from the Trumpet - the second part was from Wikipedia. So according to you - they are both wrong, then?

[said]

What do you think?

https://www.thetrumpet.com/about

"What makes us special? We use a single overarching criterion that sets us apart from other news sources and keeps us focused on what truly is important. That criterion is Bible prophecy. We show how current events, trends and developments are fulfilling specific Bible prophecies that describe world conditions prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ"

And the second part is from Wikipedia!

[local]

Nobody apart from the Toffs think that Brexit is their plaything, far from it, 90% of the UK citizens realise that it is probably the most important event of their life, only the No Deal Fantasists don't.

You kind of missed the point my article was from the Communist Party of Britain Marxist-Leninist website.
Brexit and a no deal Brexit is not the exclusive construct or plaything of the "Toffs"

are the "Toffs" not simply better educated and richer than you ?
but happen to agree with the Commies and our old friend and Marxist Jeremy Corbyn.

Don't forget poor British people mean poor British "Toffs" as thats who they live off.

As to no-deal or WTO perhaps you might find these countries manage trade deals with some of our biggest partners

https://fullfact.org/europe/who-trad...der-wto-rules/

[said]

You kind of missed the point my article was from the Communist Party of Britain Marxist-Leninist website.
Brexit and a no deal Brexit is not the exclusive construct or plaything of the "Toffs"

are the "Toffs" not simply better educated and richer than you ?
but happen to agree with the Commies and our old friend and Marxist Jeremy Corbyn.

Don't forget poor British people mean poor British "Toffs" as thats who they live off.

Corbyn is against capitalism yet he promotes Remain - must be senile dementia.

[local]

Corbyn is against capitalism yet he promotes Remain - must be senile dementia.

He doesn't promote anything thats the problem he sits on the fence when in reality he hates the EU and always has done.

He is a duplicitous political pygmy and hates the EU as much as Mogg he just isn't as honest.