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    I don't suppose there is a chance that I can win, is there?
    Every dog has its day, so they say .





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    More patronising claptrap you know where its going when someone writes;

    "targeted at vulnerable Brexit swing voters"


    apparently the big red bus, Boris and Nigel Farage helped swing the Brexit vote, the massed legions of the state from the Prime Minister The Chancellor and project fear couldn't keep those poor vulnerable racist flag waving neanderthal northerners in the Remain Camp.

    Now we are told leading the European Election polls is Nigels rag tag Brexit Party, whats happening where are the second vote anti-democracy supporters ?
    The self appointed moral majority might just might not have the support they think they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post

    Now we are told leading the European Election polls is Nigels rag tag Brexit Party, whats happening where are the second vote anti-democracy supporters ?
    The self appointed moral majority might just might not have the support they think they have.
    Lumping 'Brexit' and £UKIP together, what percentage of the vote do they have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Lumping 'Brexit' and £UKIP together, what percentage of the vote do they have?
    Keep up Nigel has the poll leading bookies favourite Brexit party he left UKIP .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    Every dog has its day, so they say .
    Woof,Woof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Lumping 'Brexit' and £UKIP together, what percentage of the vote do they have?

    If you are considering the Brexit Party, which is for the European elections, then you must also consider the number of member countries who also support coming out of the EU, but have not been allowed a referendum as the UK has - there will be a large Brexit contingency from the UK and cadidates from each member country. Together, these could be a threat to the EU.

    If you are considering the local elections - you now have Conservatives who in Parliament have been colluding with Labour over Brexit versus UKIP. Conservative voters are disappointed in May as PM, but would shed blood to stop Labour getting in. People who support Labour are split, they do not like a conservative form of Labour and are not confident with Corbyn as leader. Brexit supporters are likely to vote UKIP. There will be a protest vote in the local elections to reflect the lack of confidence in both Labour and Conservative, or people will refuse to vote altogether. The voting would change in a General Election, depending on the confidence of those standing as candidates.

    It is impossible to relate the Brexit Party with UKIP as these stand for different elections. But overall, the number of people wanting to come out of the EU across the member countries far outnumber those who wish to remain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    It is impossible to relate the Brexit Party with UKIP
    Apart from the 14 MEPs that were UKIP members. And The party was launched on 20 January 2019 by former UKIP economics spokesperson Catherine Blaiklock. And MEPs Steven Woolfe and Nathan Gill, also formerly of UKIP, stated that they would also stand for the party.

    And on 12 April 2019, Farage said that there was "no difference between the Brexit party and Ukip in terms of policy,

    Quite impossible.

    Not that UKIP is an obsolete laughing stock, after UKIP lost all 145 seats it was defending, so their dedicated members are jumping ship to Farage's latest vanity project that will keep him in the media. Until he decides that this party is a failure. So he'll jump ship to continue sucking at the teat of the EU, by starting yet another new party.

    Repeat ad nauseum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post


    Apart from the 14 MEPs that were UKIP members. And The party was launched on 20 January 2019 by former UKIP economics spokesperson Catherine Blaiklock. And MEPs Steven Woolfe and Nathan Gill, also formerly of UKIP, stated that they would also stand for the party.

    And on 12 April 2019, Farage said that there was "no difference between the Brexit party and Ukip in terms of policy,

    Quite impossible.

    Not that UKIP is an obsolete laughing stock, after UKIP lost all 145 seats it was defending, so their dedicated members are jumping ship to Farage's latest vanity project that will keep him in the media. Until he decides that this party is a failure. So he'll jump ship to continue sucking at the teat of the EU, by starting yet another new party.

    Repeat ad nauseum.


    Strange post Farage, is demonstrably hell bent on destroying his cash cow and if we had honoured the referendum result he would be redundant.

    People deserted UKIP because they thought the job was done.

    He has left them because of their racist leanings.

    His "vanity project" only exists because of dishonourable honourable members of parliament who gained their seats by deception.

    One can't fail to notice that the chief proponents of the second vote the independent party don't want a by-election for the seats they gained dishonestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Strange post Farage, is demonstrably hell bent on destroying his cash cow and if we had honoured the referendum result he would be redundant.
    Redundant, but drawing a £73000 pa pension from the EU in the future? If he drifts out of the public eye for long enough, his hundreds of thousands of pounds earnings from TV and radio appearances might take a dent. Farage isn't a politician, he's a populist rabble-rouser. Perhaps less extreme than the Yaxley-Lennons of this world, but cut from the same cloth.

    As far as I can see, the referendum result will be honoured when a deal is struck that suits both sides. Unfortunately, Brexit hasn't gone away, it's been delayed. Blame the incompetence of the likes of Davis, Raab and Barclay for that. And perhaps Liam 'The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history' Fox. Or blame Cameron for not being a bit more specific on the ballot papers as to how exactly we should leave the EU. Maybe negotiate a deal, then hold a referendum to see if the public want it.

    His "vanity project" only exists because of dishonourable honourable members of parliament who gained their seats by deception.
    Which ones?

    One can't fail to notice that the chief proponents of the second vote the independent party don't want a by-election for the seats they gained dishonestly.
    I agree they should have a by-election. Their constituents may not want a TIGger MP. Although I find it ironic that a government that so far refuses to hold a confirmatory vote, keeps voting over and over on the same subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Redundant, but drawing a £73000 pa pension from the EU in the future? If he drifts out of the public eye for long enough, his hundreds of thousands of pounds earnings from TV and radio appearances might take a dent. Farage isn't a politician, he's a populist rabble-rouser. Perhaps less extreme than the Yaxley-Lennons of this world, but cut from the same cloth.

    As far as I can see, the referendum result will be honoured when a deal is struck that suits both sides. Unfortunately, Brexit hasn't gone away, it's been delayed. Blame the incompetence of the likes of Davis, Raab and Barclay for that. And perhaps Liam 'The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history' Fox. Or blame Cameron for not being a bit more specific on the ballot papers as to how exactly we should leave the EU. Maybe negotiate a deal, then hold a referendum to see if the public want it.



    Which ones?



    I agree they should have a by-election. Their constituents may not want a TIGger MP. Although I find it ironic that a government that so far refuses to hold a confirmatory vote, keeps voting over and over on the same subject.


    Well the last ones easy it is not a confirmatory vote as it would mean tearing up the first one and offering people Ms Mays failed deal doesn't seem very fair.
    We have had a confirmatory vote the first time.
    On the strength of that vote Article 50 was then voted through by Parliament

    Parliament was instructed by the people to leave after being asked,
    there is no doubt what sort of deal that should be , one where we have left and are not under the influence of the EU.

    Just as you perhaps buying a car from me !!!!!!!!! don't want to be told when, where or how you can drive it.


    There is no demonstrable incompetence from Raab or Davis both resigned because they weren't allowed to do their jobs.

    The people who are incompetent and dishonourable are those who took part in a referendum and are not honouring the result.

    Cameron was absolutely specific as to what we were voting for, to leave the EU the single market and customs unions in a once in a lifetime vote.

    Then on to Farage if we leave as instructed then he goes, his pension is a matter for his employers but why add to it by keeping him there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Parliament was instructed by the people to leave after being asked,
    there is no doubt what sort of deal that should be , one where we have left and are not under the influence of the EU.

    Just as you perhaps buying a car from me !!!!!!!!! don't want to be told when, where or how you can drive it.
    As far as I can see, that is just the problem. There's such a variety in the way people want to leave. Some want the potentially very damaging 'let's just leave tomorrow without a deal' type, others want the soft Brexit, still others whom I'm convinced don't really understand what it involves.

    We aren't going to leave without a deal, no matter what anyone says. They'll push it further and further away.

    As far as a car buying analogy is concerned, I've said before, I reckon the vote was like someone walking into a car showroom, the salesman comes over and asks 'do you want to buy a car?'. You ask what make or model do they have, what price, what condition. He says it's a straight choice, do you want to buy a car, yes or no? You get what you're given. Same with the referendum, we'll get what were given, in the end. Might change the government. Might change the negotiators. But we'll get what we're given.

    It's entertaining to debate it, but we've got little say in it ultimately.

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    We can turn this car analogy on its head to suit the current situation;


    Parliament has left us tied to whatever deal the EU (Chapelhouse) wants to give us because they have taken away our right to walk away.

    Yes we might have to make other disruptive arrangements for a while, walk, cycle, hire, public transport etc but surely its better than paying over the odds for a clapped out overpriced banger we have to keep for life.

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    The Deal is The Deal, it's not altered and never will.
    The only thing that will change is if Labour agree to back it, this will only occur when May agrees to put ALL the EU laws into Britsh law and not cherry pick like they are trying to.

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    OK! There is still the age old argument between Remain and Leave. Post referendum activities have highlighted a number of additional problems of remaining in the EU, and the delays for Brexit are introducing market uncertainty that will affect the economy.

    Why have so many people across the whole of Europe lost respect for the EU? As a British person - I will give some examples that affect the UK. These were explained in full prior to the referendum, but appear to have been lost in a quagmire of the phantom, suddenly acquired, Brexit problems each of which are not serious, and which have been exaggerated out of context.

    The UK once a world leader in all forms of science applications, including the study of and in business. Britain conducted 12% of all the world trials for clinical purposes - now we conduct only 1%. This has been due to the highly damaging European Union's Clinical Trials Directive! It was realised too late by the EU that this was an ill conceived idea and it was changed, but by which time the business had passed to other countries. It is a similar story for agricultural biotechnology, where the EU's Directive on testing GM crops, etc.,created a very cumbersome approval application that scientists are reluctant to use. Few people realise the extent of damage to our fishing industry. The industry upon which this tiny island depended upon. our fishing fields used to extend to 200 mile from our coast - under the requirements under which the UK joined the EU this distance was decreased to just 12 miles, under a concession that has to be renewed every decade. In 2014, our landings of fish were down to just 756,000 tonnes - this is a 20% decline since 1998. UK sales from fishing would have been worth £2 billion, this has now gone to the EU. To add insult to injury, the EU are careless in fishing our waters there is huge waste of fish being thrown away, while our money goes to support other member's fishing industries.
    It would appear that by accident or intention - the EU is destroying the UK completely. It has been slowly asset stripping the UK - The EU's Port Control Legislation has hit privately owned ports in the UK very hard and these companies have been continually trying to get the legislation overturned.Another great contender for the EU guillotine, was the British Financial Services, when the EU introduced a Financial Transaction Tax that would have devastated our financial service, solely and directly, if it had not been fought off. These services would have been distributed to other countries by the EU's policies, and they have increased these policies ten fold since the crisis. This British institution is one of the most successful financial institutions in Europe - it makes no sense why the EU would seek to destroy it. The Common Agriculture Policy hit our British farmers hard. Farmers are paid in accordance with how much they produce, the more land a farmer has the more money he makes. Overseas companies moved in and formed farming conglomerates and received the largest amount of finance. Fast farming was introduced, resulting in a lower quality of produce flooding our supermarkets. There is great wastage that keeps prices artificially high from this form of farming. The EU has encroached far too much on British trading with ill advised ideas and ignorance that they have applied to industries. This is without the effects of the EU on immigration, pressures on schools, medical services, benefit payments to dependents of immigrants who still live in their own country, supplement benefits to immigrants who are supposed to support themselves, increasing poverty, increasing unemployment, etc., - I cannot understand why any British person with an iota of common sense, would vote to Remain in the EU and still protest as to why so many people want to leave! Is it a Stockholm syndrome??
    Whichever of our politician's succeeds in bringing about Brexit in the speediest way possible, they would be responsible for the greatest service done for our country!

    For Sievad's benefit - I will add that I have done the same as anyone else in looking up on the internet the various titles of legislation as I cannot remember them all word for word. The various details are readily available to the public on the internet. These details were known previously, and have been used during discussions long before the referendum. Nothing of the above has been copied and pasted, for even if it was - it merely demonstrates that these facts exist - they are part of the argument that was used by Brexit supporters.

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    OK! There is still the age old argument between Remain and Leave. Post referendum activities have highlighted a number of additional problems of remaining in the EU, and the delays for Brexit are introducing market uncertainty that will affect the economy.

    Why have so many people across the whole of Europe lost respect for the EU? As a British person - I will give some examples that affect the UK. These were explained in full prior to the referendum, but appear to have been lost in a quagmire of the phantom, suddenly acquired, Brexit problems each of which are not serious, and which have been exaggerated out of context.

    The UK once a world leader in all forms of science applications, including the study of and in business. Britain conducted 12% of all the world trials for clinical purposes - now we conduct only 1%. This has been due to the highly damaging European Union's Clinical Trials Directive! It was realised too late by the EU that this was an ill conceived idea and it was changed, but by which time the business had passed to other countries. It is a similar story for agricultural biotechnology, where the EU's Directive on testing GM crops, etc.,created a very cumbersome approval application that scientists are reluctant to use. Few people realise the extent of damage to our fishing industry. The industry upon which this tiny island depended upon. our fishing fields used to extend to 200 mile from our coast - under the requirements under which the UK joined the EU this distance was decreased to just 12 miles, under a concession that has to be renewed every decade. In 2014, our landings of fish were down to just 756,000 tonnes - this is a 20% decline since 1998. UK sales from fishing would have been worth £2 billion, this has now gone to the EU. To add insult to injury, the EU are careless in fishing our waters there is huge waste of fish being thrown away, while our money goes to support other member's fishing industries.
    It would appear that by accident or intention - the EU is destroying the UK completely. It has been slowly asset stripping the UK - The EU's Port Control Legislation has hit privately owned ports in the UK very hard and these companies have been continually trying to get the legislation overturned.Another great contender for the EU guillotine, was the British Financial Services, when the EU introduced a Financial Transaction Tax that would have devastated our financial service, solely and directly, if it had not been fought off. These services would have been distributed to other countries by the EU's policies, and they have increased these policies ten fold since the crisis. This British institution is one of the most successful financial institutions in Europe - it makes no sense why the EU would seek to destroy it. The Common Agriculture Policy hit our British farmers hard. Farmers are paid in accordance with how much they produce, the more land a farmer has the more money he makes. Overseas companies moved in and formed farming conglomerates and received the largest amount of finance. Fast farming was introduced, resulting in a lower quality of produce flooding our supermarkets. There is great wastage that keeps prices artificially high from this form of farming. The EU has encroached far too much on British trading with ill advised ideas and ignorance that they have applied to industries. This is without the effects of the EU on immigration, pressures on schools, medical services, benefit payments to dependents of immigrants who still live in their own country, supplement benefits to immigrants who are supposed to support themselves, increasing poverty, increasing unemployment, etc., - I cannot understand why any British person with an iota of common sense, would vote to Remain in the EU and still protest as to why so many people want to leave! Is it a Stockholm syndrome??
    Whichever of our politician's succeeds in bringing about Brexit in the speediest way possible, they would be responsible for the greatest service done for our country!

    For Sievad's benefit - I will add that I have done the same as anyone else in looking up on the internet the various titles of legislation as I cannot remember them all word for word. The various details are readily available to the public on the internet. These details were known previously, and have been used during discussions long before the referendum. Nothing of the above has been copied and pasted, for even if it was - it merely demonstrates that these facts exist - they are part of the argument that was used by Brexit supporters.
    The Fishing Industry has been destroyed by the Fishermen themselves, they are the ones who have sold their quotas to foreign fleets.

    Immigration into some other EU Counties is a lot higher and they don't seem to have a struggle with it, benefits going to dependants outside the UK is not because of EU rules it is an issue with the UK rules, it doesn't happen in other countries.

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