Cancel Brexit ?

[said]

There is a type. No doubt about it.

Well, if that is your scientific contribution to such arguments no wonder you appear to believe that the world is about to end. There are of course those same people who remember similar arguments about Acid Rain, Global Cooling, the Ozone Layer, Global Warming and now Climate Change. All occurring over a period of 40 Years?? What a miraculous escape we have had!

By the way, I thought you would like a heads up. I have been wearing a tin foil hat and I have not been abducted by aliens. So if everyone wears a tin foil hat they will be protected from aliens.

[The PNP]

Nice try,

but having an approved CO2 emitter that clogs childrens lungs and destroys wildlife and their habitats is akin to a member of the NRA telling us he has a licensed rifle.

Difference is, my fuel (responsibly sourced logs) is a #renewable fuel. Even says on the bag: 'Produced in the UK from 100% sustainable woodlands'. Here's their website fyi: www.surefirewood.com


Trees absorb CO2, then release it again when burnt. I.e. no overall increase in atmospheric CO2 - so no increase in greenhouse gases. Whereas, your gas central heating (I assume you have some) constantly puts out CO2, adding greenhouse gases to our atmosphere year-on-year....Tell me how that can possibly be better for the planet than my FSC approved logs - if you can!


STOP BREXIT!

[Toodles McGinty]

Well, if that is your scientific contribution to such arguments no wonder you appear to believe that the world is about to end. There are of course those same people who remember similar arguments about Acid Rain, Global Cooling, the Ozone Layer, Global Warming and now Climate Change. All occurring over a period of 40 Years?? What a miraculous escape we have had!

Not doing Climate Change again. Let's say you are right and every recognised scientific body, Uncle Tom Cobley and David Attenborough are wrong.

By the way, I thought you would like a heads up. I have been wearing a tin foil hat and I have not been abducted by aliens. So if everyone wears a tin foil hat they will be protected from aliens.

A- that tells me aliens are definitely looking for intelligent life on earth, and B- that makes about as much sense as everything else you post.

[silver fox]

Difference is, my fuel (responsibly sourced logs) is a #renewable fuel. Even says on the bag: 'Produced in the UK from 100% sustainable woodlands'. Here's their website fyi: www.surefirewood.com


Trees absorb CO2, then release it again when burnt. I.e. no overall increase in atmospheric CO2 - so no increase in greenhouse gases. Whereas, your gas central heating (I assume you have some) constantly puts out CO2, adding greenhouse gases to our atmosphere year-on-year....Tell me how that can possibly be better for the planet than my FSC approved logs - if you can!


STOP BREXIT!

OK, we all understand the logic behind your argument, however even you must accept that if wood became a major fuel, trees could never be grown quickly enough to come close to equaling the CO2 released by burning wood.

The argument sounds fine on a small scale, but no chance of the use of wood for fuel becoming the norm without catastrophic consequences.

[The PNP]

OK, we all understand the logic behind your argument, however even you must accept that if wood became a major fuel, trees could never be grown quickly enough to come close to equaling the CO2 released by burning wood.

The argument sounds fine on a small scale, but no chance of the use of wood for fuel becoming the norm without catastrophic consequences.

As I understand it, trees grown as a crop (for fuel, newsprint, etc) are harvested after approx 40 years, in a continuous cycle.....The only real limitation re volume of production would be availability of land. Land planted is often of little practical use for other purposes e.g. steep hillsides.

Imo, upgrading the insulation of UK housing stock urgently wants prioritising, to significantly reduce energy consumption and therefore greenhouse emissions. I'm talking primarily about fully 'cladding' property exteriors, with high-performance insulation material.

Substantial Govt grants would be offered to householders, to make carrying out the work cost-effective. The householders share of the cost should be recoverable via reduced energy bills within a reasonable timescale.

STOP BREXIT!

[local]

Difference is, my fuel (responsibly sourced logs) is a #renewable fuel. Even says on the bag: 'Produced in the UK from 100% sustainable woodlands'. Here's their website fyi: www.surefirewood.com


Trees absorb CO2, then release it again when burnt. I.e. no overall increase in atmospheric CO2 - so no increase in greenhouse gases. Whereas, your gas central heating (I assume you have some) constantly puts out CO2, adding greenhouse gases to our atmosphere year-on-year....Tell me how that can possibly be better for the planet than my FSC approved logs - if you can!


STOP BREXIT!

Oh no please don't embarrass yourself with that tosh your lung clogging
super polluting woodburners are about as green as burning down ainsdale pinewoods.


If your idea of green is chopping down forests destroying wildlife habitats, clogging lungs and emitting more pollution than diesels cars then you have had your head in a flue all day.

Should we sit the wild life to one side for forty years plus while the trees regrow ?

Plant a tree and leave it alone.


Wood burning is not climate friendly
Burning wood releases more CO2 than gas, oil and even coal for the same amount of heat.

Burning wood is not CO2 free; it releases carbon, stored over the previous decades, in one quick burst.


For logs from mature Canadian woodland, it could take more than 100 years before the atmospheric CO2 is less than the alternative scenario of burning a fossil fuel and leaving the trees in the forest.*


Guardian.

[The PNP]

A) Plant a tree and leave it alone.

B) For logs from mature Canadian woodland, it could take more than 100 years before the atmospheric CO2 is less than the alternative scenario of burning a fossil fuel and leaving the trees in the forest.

A) Would you plant a cabbage and leave it alone?
No, course not.....If there was no demand for cabbages, they wouldn't be planted in the first place.

Likewise with the forestry business, it's the demand for timber (and logs) that creates our plantations. No forestry business is going to plant trees - then simply 'leave them alone'.

B) But ours aren't Canadian, they're produced in the UK from 100% sustainable woodlands!

Btw, where does your gas come from? Is it produced 100% in the UK? Or are you adding to our rather large balance of payments deficit, by consuming imported gas?


STOP BREXIT!

[local]

A) Would you plant a cabbage and leave it alone?
No, course not.....If there was no demand for cabbages, they wouldn't be planted in the first place.

Likewise with the forestry business, it's the demand for timber (and logs) that creates our plantations. No forestry business is going to plant trees - then simply 'leave them alone'.

B) But ours aren't Canadian, they're produced in the UK from 100% sustainable woodlands!

Btw, where does your gas come from? Is it produced 100% in the UK? Or are you adding to our rather large balance of payments deficit, by consuming imported gas?


STOP BREXIT!

Your flogging lung disease, global warming and destruction of wildlife habitats, your excuse is truly cabbage.

[bambi275]

As I understand it, trees grown as a crop (for fuel, newsprint, etc) are harvested after approx 40 years, in a continuous cycle.....The only real limitation re volume of production would be availability of land. Land planted is often of little practical use for other purposes e.g. steep hillsides.

Imo, upgrading the insulation of UK housing stock urgently wants prioritising, to significantly reduce energy consumption and therefore greenhouse emissions. I'm talking primarily about fully 'cladding' property exteriors, with high-performance insulation material.

Substantial Govt grants would be offered to householders, to make carrying out the work cost-effective. The householders share of the cost should be recoverable via reduced energy bills within a reasonable timescale.

STOP BREXIT!

Cladding went down well in Greenfell!

[Nick2]

Cladding went down well in Greenfell!

It went up in Grenfell.

[Alikado]

Cancel Brexit my be the only option, EU will not agree to any extension

The European Commission President says he spoke to Boris Johnson 30 minutes ago about the prospect of an extension.

Jean-Claude Juncker told reporters: "I was ruling out that there would be any kind of prolongation.

"If we have a deal we have a deal and there is no need for prolongation.

"That is the British view and that is my view too."

Asked about whether the Commons would allow it, he said: "I am not in charge of Parliamentary affairs of Britain."


So the only option for Parliament is to accept the deal, crash out with no deal or pass a bill to withdraw article 50. - Watch this space!

[said]

Cancel Brexit my be the only option, EU will not agree to any extension

The European Commission President says he spoke to Boris Johnson 30 minutes ago about the prospect of an extension.

Jean-Claude Juncker told reporters: "I was ruling out that there would be any kind of prolongation.

"If we have a deal we have a deal and there is no need for prolongation.

"That is the British view and that is my view too."

Asked about whether the Commons would allow it, he said: "I am not in charge of Parliamentary affairs of Britain."


So the only option for Parliament is to accept the deal, crash out with no deal or pass a bill to withdraw article 50. - Watch this space!

Have you seen the Motorway instruction boards, where they inform of traffic delays, weather conditions etc., They now have a notice up that freight drivers will need to check if they have the right paper work for a no deal Brexit.

[Alikado]

Have you seen the Motorway instruction boards, where they inform of traffic delays, weather conditions etc., They now have a notice up that freight drivers will need to check if they have the right paper work for a no deal Brexit.

They've been displayed for several weeks.

[lostsoul]

My stance has always been that a referendum was a crazy way to decide our membership of the EU. The matter is far too complex for the average voter to get their head around. They simply lack the expertise, knowledge and, basically, the desire to do all the research needed to come to a well thought out decision on our relationship with the EU.
However, no politician - or hardly a one - is willing to state that publicly for fear of insulting the intelligence of the great British public.

[local]

You make the dictators argument, the reality is the people make the bigger decisions the experts implement them.
You don't need to a solicitor to make the decision to buy a house.
The current deal was negotiated by Boris but done by experts whilst Boris was drawing pictures with kids.