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Boris & Cummins at it again.
Are Boris and his master Cummins at it again, trying to close Parliament for 5 MONTHS under the pretext of stopping the virus spreading, surely the what should be happening is MP's stay in Parliament and do the job they are paid to do and to miss out the Photo Opportunities in the Constituencies. The MP's are still contactable when in Parliament, in fact it would give them more time to do their work instead of travelling, Parliament could even sit for longer rather than allow the Government to avoid scrutiny.
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This is just a ruse to ensure a 'no deal' Brexit, which is what they wanted all along.
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Oh, hang on. Political post so let's get this bit out of the way:
"Labour!"
"Lefty Losers!"
"Diane Abbott!"
"Corbyn!".
"Gordon Brown caused a global crash!"
"Iraq war!"
There, that will save about 15 redundant posts that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I can see the sense of trimming down the non-essential activities at the Palace of Westminster. A Labour MP (can't remember which one, a back bencher) suggested yesterday that there was a case up for question about the safety of MPs meeting in London, then returning to their constituencies possibly carrying the virus. She suggested that there are now technological possibilities of engaging in debate without physically being in Parliament. While I see the sense in that, I can also see that it is chaotic enough when they meet physically. I can imagine that hundreds of MPs gathering virtually would be even worse.
On the other hand, the PM avoids scrutiny (and seemingly all types of work) at the best of times. I'm not keen on months and months of invisible manoeuvring, where the government is all but unaccountable to the public and the rest of Parliament. Particularly when the exceedingly intricate separating ourselves from the EU situation is going on.
Perhaps everything but the absolute essentials should be put on the back burner until the crisis has passed. Including international negotiations, considering this has pretty much turned into a pandemic.
Originally Posted by Lamparilla
This is just a ruse to ensure a 'no deal' Brexit, which is what they wanted all along.
They are going to do that anyway. They've gone back on just about every promise made about customs, regulatory alignment, borders, etc. This just makes them less accountable, as everything can be swept under the carpet for months and months.
Last edited by Toodles McGinty; 05/03/2020 at 12:21 PM.
Reason: added the Pavlovian response of "Labour!" to every. single. political. post.
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Last edited by Alikado; 05/03/2020 at 11:33 AM.
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Originally Posted by Lamparilla
This is just a ruse to ensure a 'no deal' Brexit, which is what they wanted all along.
Labour sealed that one if it does happen.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Labour sealed that one if it does happen.
The only way Labour sealed no Brexit was by not winning the election, Johnson and affiliated cronies have wanted no deal all along, this clamour for control translates as handing control to a right wing consortium, who know the price of everything and value of sod all.
To date lots of talk, no action, but then again does anyone really expect much useful action?
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…suspend Parliament?
If it should happen, MPs should be required to take unpaid leave. MPs overstate their own importance. They indulge in much displacement activity while in London and are in perpetual campaign mode in their respective constituencies [read Southprort's MP's contributions to The Champion, if you doubt that].
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Originally Posted by silver fox
The only way Labour sealed no Brexit was by not winning the election, Johnson and affiliated cronies have wanted no deal all along, this clamour for control translates as handing control to a right wing consortium, who know the price of everything and value of sod all.
To date lots of talk, no action, but then again does anyone really expect much useful action?
It's that Pavlovian response again. Certain posters can't discuss anything to do with the Tory party without 'Labour!', regardless of its relevance. In this particular instance, if the election had anything at all to do with it (which it doesn't), given the around 1.3 million vote swing to them, if anyone sealed 'no deal' it was the Lib-Dems.
Johnson never wanted a deal. His disaster capitalist backers won't make a penny if we had a deal which kept trade flowing smoothly. The only difference this pandemic makes is that Johnson, Gove et al. can blame the virus for the inevitable economic downturn, rather than Brexit. It's worked out well.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
The only way Labour sealed no Brexit was by not winning the election, Johnson and affiliated cronies have wanted no deal all along, this clamour for control translates as handing control to a right wing consortium, who know the price of everything and value of sod all.
To date lots of talk, no action, but then again does anyone really expect much useful action?
Expect a No Deal - then if this happens, you won't be disappointed!
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
It's that Pavlovian response again. Certain posters can't discuss anything to do with the Tory party without 'Labour!', regardless of its relevance. In this particular instance, if the election had anything at all to do with it (which it doesn't), given the around 1.3 million vote swing to them, if anyone sealed 'no deal' it was the Lib-Dems.
Johnson never wanted a deal. His disaster capitalist backers won't make a penny if we had a deal which kept trade flowing smoothly. The only difference this pandemic makes is that Johnson, Gove et al. can blame the virus for the inevitable economic downturn, rather than Brexit. It's worked out well.
You do make me laugh, capitalists not wanting smooth trade
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Originally Posted by said
Expect a No Deal - then if this happens, you won't be disappointed!
With a Tory government I always expect the worst, good of you to confirm his.
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Originally Posted by local
You do make me laugh, capitalists not wanting smooth trade
Bless. I wrote 'disaster' capitalists. Nothing to do with capitalists wanting smooth trade. They are not the same.
You don't know what a disaster capitalist is, do you?
Here are a few notes:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ter-capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
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Originally Posted by local
You do make me laugh, capitalists not wanting smooth trade
No money in smooth trade the vultures need turmoil & voliltilty to operate.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
No money in smooth trade the vultures need turmoil & voliltilty to operate.
Complete tosh.
Uninterrupted flow of revenue is a capitalists dream, markets hate uncertainty.
Have you ever run any business ?
Even vultures want a regular meal.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
You are too easily swayed by attention seeking activists like Klein its a baseless theory your greedy capitalist pig wants an unending trough full to gorge on.
You need to read more widely from the real world.
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