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Published on: 19/10/2018 06:31 AMReported by: roving-eye
Lancashire County Council votes for stunned halal meat in schools.
Only stunned halal meat will be provided to schools by Lancashire County Council's catering service, following a vote by the authority's full council.
The county council's cabinet had made a decision in July to provide only stunned halal meat, except poultry, to schools.
However, after further consideration it was decided a final decision on the matter should be put to a vote so all councillors could consider the issue.
The decision to bring the matter before full council also followed communication with the Lancashire Council of Mosques.
Halal meat is supplied to 27 schools by the council's catering service, where there is the demand for it from the Muslim community and where the headteacher and governing body request this for a proportion of children on the basis of their religious belief.
Halal meat is only offered to students whose parents have specifically requested it and these children can choose halal meat as one of a number of options.
County Councillor Geoff Driver CBE, leader of Lancashire County Council, said: "Given the strength of feeling on both sides of the debate it was important that all councillors got the opportunity to consider this issue.
"Today's decision to ban the provision of meat from animals that were not stunned before they were slaughtered is purely an animal welfare issue. There is no other motivation.
"The county council will now work with the Lancashire Council of Mosques to mitigate against any unwanted and unwarranted consequences of this decision."
The vote by the county council was: For 49, Against 23, Abstain 9
The motion was agreed that the county council will:
1. Not provide meat (other than poultry) to LCC establishments unless the animals were stunned before they were slaughtered
2. Consult with the Lancashire council of mosques and others on how the county council can implement this policy whilst continuing to provide meals which comply with the Muslim community's religious beliefs.
3. Undertake further investigations with the Lancashire council of mosques into the stunning of poultry before slaughter.
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gazaprop says:20/10/2018 06:16 AM
I think we set off down a very difficult path if halal meat is banned because of the suffering an animal experiences when slaughtered.
It would be nonsense to claim an element of suffering is not involved, whichever way an animal is slaughtered and, if we choose to eat meat we tacitly accept this.
I think many of the complaints proffered against this practice are rooted in a prejudicial mindset rather than animal welfare concerns.
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SteM says:20/10/2018 10:59 AM
Originally Posted by gazaprop
I think we set off down a very difficult path if halal meat is banned because of the suffering an animal experiences when slaughtered.
It would be nonsense to claim an element of suffering is not involved, whichever way an animal is slaughtered and, if we choose to eat meat we tacitly accept this.
I think many of the complaints proffered against this practice are rooted in a prejudicial mindset rather than animal welfare concerns.
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said says:20/10/2018 06:01 PM
The powers that be have made a very dangerous decision in agreeing to other nation's religious wants. Halal meat was appropriate for the middle aged heathens - the animals are not generally stunned (who is going to check on this for school use - not!) and the animals do not die immediately, they are left to bleed out.
Anyone who comes to the UK should abide by the traditions of the UK - else, where do you draw the line? Other nations in the UK have not demanded that their specialist foods be distributed - so why the Muslims? Muslims only eat the meat produced by their own Halal Butchers, who is to say how this meat is processed?
If other nations demanded that cat and dog meat be served - which they eat in their own country - would the authorities agree to that also?
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ainsdale local says:20/10/2018 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by gazaprop
I think we set off down a very difficult path if halal meat is banned because of the suffering an animal experiences when slaughtered.
It would be nonsense to claim an element of suffering is not involved, whichever way an animal is slaughtered and, if we choose to eat meat we tacitly accept this.
I think many of the complaints proffered against this practice are rooted in a prejudicial mindset rather than animal welfare concerns.
I disagree. Most people who eat meat do not tacitly accept suffering when animals are slaughtered. We expect it to be humane and tightly controlled by regulation and inspection. Admittedly it would be naive to expect this on every occasion but it is a lot better than allowing the spread of the use of non-stunned halal meat - irrespective of what religious requires it.
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gazaprop says:21/10/2018 05:49 AM
Originally Posted by ainsdale local
I disagree. Most people who eat meat do not tacitly accept suffering when animals are slaughtered. We expect it to be humane and tightly controlled by regulation and inspection. Admittedly it would be naive to expect this on every occasion but it is a lot better than allowing the spread of the use of non-stunned halal meat - irrespective of what religious requires it.
If we acknowledge there is an element of suffering involved however an animal is slaughtered and, it would be naive to believe otherwise, then there is a tacit acceptance of that suffering if you eat meat. No other logical conclusion can be arrived at.
Be grabbed and have your throat cut or - queue up listening to the distress of your fellow beasts whilst you wait to be stunned.
It's akin to being offered a poke in the eye or a kick in the nuts.
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