Originally Posted by Polly Trott

An alliance with the DUP would not have given Labour a majority in 2010. Why would they have wanted to do anything so silly?

You'd have to be a fool to expect logic from Labour. Oh, wait...

Originally Posted by Polly Trott

An alliance with the DUP would not have given Labour a majority in 2010. Why would they have wanted to do anything so silly?

Faux outrage sound familiar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOHgipgkfKc

Originally Posted by ECHOEONE

Faux outrage sound familiar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOHgipgkfKc

Either 'all' the people of Northern Ireland needed a billion quid or they didn't. It shouldn't have been dependent on DUP support for the Tories.

Originally Posted by dav

You'd have to be a fool to expect logic from Labour. Oh, wait...

You mean foolish like accidentally bombing out of the EU or calling an unnecessary election and losing your majority so you have to form an alliance with nut jobs like the DUP? Oh, wait...

Originally Posted by dav

Indeed. What's your point?

My point being that Mr Corbyn seems to get called a "terrorist sympathiser" for having talked to elected Sinn Fein MPs in the past. Now whilst Sinn Fein's links to the IRA were well know (as are the DUP's to the UVF) perhaps the fact the IRA are no longer blowing people up means talking to them wasn't such a bad thing.

Polly Trott - You said "An alliance with the DUP would not have given Labour a majority in 2010. Why would they have wanted to do anything so silly?"

The link I posted proved they approached the DUP for such an alliance so you are talking tripe.

Originally Posted by Ralphy Rylance

My point being that Mr Corbyn seems to get called a "terrorist sympathiser" for having talked to elected Sinn Fein MPs in the past. Now whilst Sinn Fein's links to the IRA were well know (as are the DUP's to the UVF) perhaps the fact the IRA are no longer blowing people up means talking to them wasn't such a bad thing.

Jezza was hobnobbin' with them whilst they were actually still involved in blowing people up, not when they'd cleaned up their act a tad. He's a serial offender of love-ins with a number of different terrorist organisations around the world. His rule of thumb is to go with anyone who hates Britain and the West. Well dodgy. It's only partly about the company he keeps, of course, there's also the dreadful political judgement and economic illiteracy.

Originally Posted by Polly Trott

You mean foolish like accidentally bombing out of the EU or calling an unnecessary election and losing your majority so you have to form an alliance with nut jobs like the DUP? Oh, wait...

You mistake me for a Tory. Admittedly, the Tories are less bad than Labour - but only marginally.

I am delighted that we voted to leave the EU and hope that the "soft Brexit" (i.e. no real Brexit) stitch up that all major parties are currently involved in will fail.

The DUP have some wonderful policies on business taxes and safeguarding unborn children. I have more faith in the DUP than the Corbynistas.

Originally Posted by ECHOEONE

Polly Trott - You said "An alliance with the DUP would not have given Labour a majority in 2010. Why would they have wanted to do anything so silly?"

The link I posted proved they approached the DUP for such an alliance so you are talking tripe.

Did this 'offer' include a billion pound bribe?

Originally Posted by dav

You mistake me for a Tory. Admittedly, the Tories are less bad than Labour - but only marginally.

I am delighted that we voted to leave the EU and hope that the "soft Brexit" (i.e. no real Brexit) stitch up that all major parties are currently involved in will fail.

The DUP have some wonderful policies on business taxes and safeguarding unborn children. I have more faith in the DUP than the Corbynistas.

Are you posting from the 17th Century?

Does your admiration of the DUP extend to their hatred of Catholics and LGBT+ people, their links with paramilitaries or their lack of belief in dinosaurs?

Originally Posted by dav

The DUP have some wonderful policies on business taxes and safeguarding unborn children. I have more faith in the DUP than the Corbynistas.

Taking away women's choice on what happens to their own bodies? Wonderful.

Perhaps we could bring back workhouses, take away poor people's rights to vote and end that ridiculous education for all, too.

Maybe wind back the clock 6000 years and start creation all over again.

Tit.

Originally Posted by Polly Trott

Are you posting from the 17th Century?

Does your admiration of the DUP extend to their hatred of Catholics and LGBT+ people, their links with paramilitaries or their lack of belief in dinosaurs?

My admiration for any political party is strictly restricted to those bits of policy I agree with. I'm not one of those dumb tribal people who always votes with the same party despite the evidence that they regularly crap on you once they're in. Each new election campaign calls for thinking people to reassess who is marginally more likely to deliver some of the things one cares about this time - and to prepare for disappointment :-)

Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty

Taking away women's choice on what happens to their own bodies? Wonderful.

Perhaps we could bring back workhouses, take away poor people's rights to vote and end that ridiculous education for all, too.

Maybe wind back the clock 6000 years and start creation all over again.

Tit.

Toodles, you paragon of politeness, you'll be pleased to hear that I'm very happy for women to choose what they do with their own bodies. It is when there is another person's body involved that there are extra considerations. I don't regard any human person as simply disposable for the convenience of another.

Originally Posted by Polly Trott

I expect JC could turn the tide - just like he did in the General Election!

Let's get him a pair of concrete boots and let him try. I'd pay to watch.

Originally Posted by dav

Toodles, you paragon of politeness, you'll be pleased to hear that I'm very happy for women to choose what they do with their own bodies. It is when there is another person's body involved that there are extra considerations. I don't regard any human person as simply disposable for the convenience of another.

You don't regard any human person as simply disposable. Shame the DUPs' paramilitary mates don't think the same.