Originally Posted by gerrard24

I was a amassed that not one parry mentioned the Debt. Labour wanted to borrow and spend more. I heard a young voter apart from saying how they clever they are and the Future wanted so called free this and free that. I am sorry to say but nothing is free and they will pay for it one way or the other. We have a Debt of 1606.9 Billion Pounds. Put it another way if and when we start paying the debt off at 1 Million a day it would take over 4000 years. The year 6419 AD or another way in 2385 BC they started doing the same the debt would be paid off today. The Politician also failed to mention we pay 1 Billion a week on the interest alone and growing.

So did you vote Tory a Party that has tripled the debt since they conned their way into Government via the LibDumbs in 2010. Don't listen to the rubbish being spouted by idiots like Boris the Braindead and the rest of the popular Tory press Sun, Mail, they'll have you believing the moon is made of green cheese next.
Do you want that grinning clown of a health minister closing down the NHS do you want less police on the streets if you don't and you voted Tory you must be a VERY rich man.

Originally Posted by Alikado

Next time Southport Constituancy will be a differant kettle of fish with either Formby, part of West Lancs or South Ribble. LIB DUMS ARE FINISHED HERE NOW!

You hide behind your screen name with insults, they still had a very large vote, they said that Labour nationally were finished but the opposite appears to be true. Many people in Southport still support them and will continue to do so

Originally Posted by Username2016

What "trick" is that? Surely it's more of the Lib Dem trick of peppering us with leaflets saying "labour can't win here" and diluted the labour vote....plus the added "trick" of the past 20 years of looking like they've achieved something for the town? Plus the Lib campaign was highly personal and nasty so glad it backfired....our libs on the council and nationally don't work well with others.

I'd have preferred Liz Savage representing us but suppose we should get behind Damien to try and use a better level of influence albeit less given the wider results.

What have Labour locally every done for Southport other than closed the libraries and reduce finding to the town.

Originally Posted by onehorsetown2

The new MP will do what previous Conservative MPs in Southport have done, tow the party line and never say anything which may upset the party leadership. They disappear into the Tory voting fodder in Parliament. You may not have liked john Pugh but he was his own man and was never frightened to say what he thought even if it was against the Party line.

Yes, he voted against equal rights for gay people.... as for the towing the party line have you not read his voting record "generally voted with the coalition"

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11...ns?policy=6667

Including, bedroom tax, welfare caps, not preventing train fares from rising above inflation oh and the hospital trusts act that's enabled their political football of potential A&E closures....really great for the people of southport and as for the town, no investment and decline.

At least we'll have his sound bites.

You are right I'm not a die hard labour or any supporter but we need a voice and change...it wasn't coming from the Libs. I'm sure John and Sue mean well but they aren't the right people for southport and despite the nasty "are they local though" campaign when she ran in south ribble in 2015 and Dawson did in saddle worth it's a bit much on that Womble comment

Originally Posted by seafood

I wonder if the LibDems would have had more success if Councillor Dawson had been chosen to be their candidate, rather than Sue Maguire.

Perhaps the party got it wrong?

Labour maybe have even got in as Sue was their best candidate by far from what they have to offer from their "senior team", Dawson not being involved in the campaign may not have helped them

I don't know why I bother looking at this site. It is populated by people of all parties who hide behind screen names and throw insults round like a bunch of naughty children. Grow up all of you!

Let's get the back in Lancashire vote going

why does sexual orientation influence a persons vote?

Same sex marriage is disgusting and against the bibles preaching.

Originally Posted by Porth- beach

why does sexual orientation influence a persons vote?

Same sex marriage is disgusting and against the bibles preaching.

I wonder if bigotry influences a persons vote?

Originally Posted by onehorsetown2

You hide behind your screen name with insults, they still had a very large vote, they said that Labour nationally were finished but the opposite appears to be true. Many people in Southport still support them and will continue to do so

Where's the insults?
Few people in Southport support them now, the town has reverted to what it was 40 years ago, Conservative with Labour second. The next election will be with the enlarged Constituancy making it a straight and even fight between the two.

Originally Posted by Alikado

Where's the insults?
Few people in Southport support them now, the town has reverted to what it was 40 years ago, Conservative with Labour second. The next election will be with the enlarged Constituancy making it a straight and even fight between the two.

I think calling them LIB DUMBS might illustrate the level of insults or are you so used to it now that you don't even notice it. I think it will take a few more Labour near misses before you can say that the Liberal Democrats are finished, one swallow doesn't make a summer.

Originally Posted by Alikado

... the town has reverted to what it was 40 years ago, Conservative with Labour second.

You really need to check your facts.

43 years ago Labour got 13% and the Liberal got 40%
42 years ago Labour got 17% and the Liberal got 36%
38 years ago Labour got 13% and the Liberal got 38%
(the Conservatives narrowly won all of those)

Then, when Ronnie Fearn won for the first time:

30 years ago Labour got 6% and the Liberal got 48%

Originally Posted by prasnee

You really need to check your facts.

43 years ago Labour got 13% and the Liberal got 40%
42 years ago Labour got 17% and the Liberal got 36%
38 years ago Labour got 13% and the Liberal got 38%
(the Conservatives narrowly won all of those)

Then, when Ronnie Fearn won for the first time:

30 years ago Labour got 6% and the Liberal got 48%

Surely, those facts are kindly interesting at best. The key facts are:

Despite the mass amount of mail, some of which printed by the Libs own cost efficient printing society:

1) the Libs were well beaten, not narrowly but well beaten, the tactic of "labour can't win here so vote lib" backfired
2) the Libs made a lot about "not being local" although that didn't matter when Cllr Maguire stood for MPin the ribble election and Cllr Dawson in saddleworth
3) the people of southport no longer have confidence in the Libs and have chosen someone else despite the amount of rubbish pushed through letterboxes for the last few weeks
4) the town has declined on the Libs watch and even when they were in coalition no benefit was felt in southport in fact it was worse with "bedroom tax", higher train fares and also the process that's led to the favourite political football of potential "a&e closures
5) despite the Libs saying "keep the nasty tories out", it's impossible to say in the last 20 years that has achieved as even in coalition you voted with them on most things.

You seem to love and come for a debate but you quickly scurry away if asked in what context you comment, I.e. a paid elective or whether you can articulate what exactly the Libs have achieved for southport as your dismissive "what the Romans have done" is irrelevant as we've been paying generous salaries and allowances so it's not an unreasonable ask.

It's a big change for the town but we definitely needed change rather than bitter Libs full of sound bites but not action.

Originally Posted by Username2016

Surely, those facts are kindly interesting at best.

That's a strange thing to say.

What you should have said is that those are interesting facts that clearly show that
Alikado was completely wrong when he said Southport 40 years ago, had the Conservatives first with Labour second.

You do understand that, do you?

Originally Posted by Username2016

... a paid elective or whether you can articulate what exactly the Libs have achieved for southport as your dismissive "what the Romans have done" is irrelevant as we've been paying generous salaries and allowances so it's not an unreasonable ask.

Do you actually want to know what your councillors or MP have done, or do you merely want to be boringly aggressive?

If you seriously wanted to know you would logically have approached one or more of them and asked. Is that something you have done?

Incidentally, could you explain what you mean about "what have the Romans ever done for us" being dismissive and irrelevant? Weren't the Romans paid?