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  1. Published on: 20/09/2016 12:24 PMReported by: roving-eye
    A concerned local councillor is calling for further action as
    travellers have returned to Southport, this time to the Kew Park and
    Ride.



    Councillor Tony Dawson, who is presently out of the country, saw the
    latest Southport traveller invasion on social media. He has a formal
    question listed to the leader of the Council for the council meeting
    in Bootle on Thursday:

    "(1) Question to the leader of the Council, Cllr Ian Maher:

    In view of the fact that it is by now well-transmitted throughout the
    land by social media that the Borough of Sefton, and Southport in
    particular, are places where 'Travellers' can park their vehicles on
    public or private land with relative impunity, even where there is
    repeated criminal activity witnessed. will the Leader of the Council
    convene a small working group involving the police and a member of any
    Council group who is interested to see how the authorities in the
    borough might create policies which enable a better response to reduce
    the likelihood of such repeat invasions and improve effectiveness when
    they take place?"

    The question was put in for answer before the latest invasion.

    "I am surprised that Sefton Council has not published a 'guide book
    for travellers' showing them how to enter all the best sites in
    Southport" says Cllr Dawson.
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  3. local says:20/09/2016 03:39 PM
    Whilst on Birkdale common today a white transit pickup with ladders on the back drew up and was looking at the newly installed bollards.
    I wonder if the vehicle is from Kew park and ride ?

  4. Gestetna says:20/09/2016 05:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Whilst on Birkdale common today a white transit pickup with ladders on the back drew up and was looking at the newly installed bollards.
    I wonder if the vehicle is from Kew park and ride ?
    ....................
    So,What action did you take whilst watching ,Did you express your observations and concerns to Police,

  5. rare-pepe999 says:20/09/2016 07:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Gestetna View Post
    ....................
    So,What action did you take whilst watching ,Did you express your observations and concerns to Police,
    the van wasnt going 5mph over the speed limit, so why would the police be interested?

  6. barrypotter says:20/09/2016 08:21 PM
    Has Cllr Dawson provided the details of these witnesses to these repeated criminal acts to the Police and does he know if the local authority have a traveller liaison officer/ department which is commonplace in councils who deal with traveller encampments.

  7. Username2016 says:20/09/2016 08:40 PM
    Is Cllr Dawson trying to be more effective when on his "working holidays" than when in the borough or us only relevance if someone asked for one of his selfies? Mind boggles why we'd have a **local** Cllr on a "working holiday" 7000 miles away.

    We never did get an answer if he had "called" anyone he was "calling upon" previously but hopefully he's aware the council do have a policy on travelers

    https://www.sefton.gov.uk/housing/ge...ravellers.aspx

    So rather than go "box office" shouldn't he focus to see if the policies are not working or being followed and amend them as appropriate as they are either not workable or followed by the problems and Lib Dem "concerns" fodder on the local news sites

  8. lilbeethoven says:21/09/2016 07:37 AM
    The frustration is that it seems the regular rules of Law do not apply to travellers. Illegal parking, failing to pay for parking, tresspass, criminal damage, fly tipping, dumping of hazardous waste, the list goes on.

    Try parking up in your caravan on Tulketh street car park free for a couple of nights and leaving a few bags of waste and see what happens.

  9. Commentator says:21/09/2016 10:57 AM
    #operationturnablindeye
    #rulesdonotapplytotravellersandorangelodgers

  10. Superbead says:21/09/2016 12:19 PM
    The only way to deal with the problem is to make strong examples by impounding (some of) their vehicles at any cost – even if this involves the help of neighbouring police forces.

    It will be very expensive on paper compared to the current 'hope it doesn't happen again, then do the minimum possible, pay for the cleanup and repairs, repeat ad nauseam' practice, but eventually, by hitting the Achilles' heel that is their vehicles, the council will gain a no-nonsense reputation. We would see substantially fewer carefree scumbags and the operation would end up paying for itself.

  11. jannh says:21/09/2016 02:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lilbeethoven View Post
    The frustration is that it seems the regular rules of Law do not apply to travellers. Illegal parking, failing to pay for parking, tresspass, criminal damage, fly tipping, dumping of hazardous waste, the list goes on.

    Try parking up in your caravan on Tulketh street car park free for a couple of nights and leaving a few bags of waste and see what happens.
    If you did park your caravan and got ticketed could you sue the Council for
    discrimination?

  12. clegg says:21/09/2016 04:28 PM
    I suspect that as usual the "authorities" will do the square root of bugger all.
    If councillors actually listened to the concerns of the electorate this would have been sorted ages ago

  13. Gestetna says:21/09/2016 04:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by rare-pepe999 View Post
    the van wasnt going 5mph over the speed limit, so why would the police be interested?
    ................
    That was not your initial concern,
    We read your worry was about what might happen,
    So,did you express your comments to Police.
    We await your reply,

  14. torchwud says:21/09/2016 04:49 PM
    they are only here for one reason..they want to earn money...from sadly stupid residents..the council should concentrate on informing all resisidents from employing casual whatever cutting your trees down, tarmacing, etc etc...if we keep giving them money they will keep taking it..

  15. local says:21/09/2016 06:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Gestetna View Post
    ....................
    So,What action did you take whilst watching ,Did you express your observations and concerns to Police,
    No discernible offence and Merseyside Police deliberately do not apply the law evenly when there is so what would be the point ?



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