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    All conservative voters should be shaking in their shoes! The Don Corbyn is threatening to come to Southport and tell them all off for not voting Labour!
    The only leading politician who has acted like some Mafia Don is our alleged PM, that is why she did so poorly in her "back me" election, what is wrong with all you Tory lovers, Corbyn seems to have got you all rattled, grow up, the bloody Tories are still the largest party in the House of Commons, unfortunately.





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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    The only leading politician who has acted like some Mafia Don is our alleged PM, that is why she did so poorly in her "back me" election, what is wrong with all you Tory lovers, Corbyn seems to have got you all rattled, grow up, the bloody Tories are still the largest party in the House of Commons, unfortunately.
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    "JOHN McDonnell has undertaken an astounding u-turn this morning after he desperately tried to play down his backing for the planned “Day of Rage” protest after calling for one million people to take to the streets."

    Watch his lips.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/819...ch-theresa-may

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
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    "JOHN McDonnell has undertaken an astounding u-turn this morning after he desperately tried to play down his backing for the planned “Day of Rage” protest after calling for one million people to take to the streets."

    Watch his lips.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/819...ch-theresa-may
    The Express has been so busily working itself into a froth, it has probably created more publicity for this protest march than anyone else, personally wasn't aware of this march until you brought it up.

    Judging by the lunchtime news, they will be lucky to put a couple of football teams together, having any effect only the disturbed dreams of Tories, who are desperately looking for an enemy to blame, something, anything to deflect attention from the real failings and issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    The Express has been so busily working itself into a froth, it has probably created more publicity for this protest march than anyone else, personally wasn't aware of this march until you brought it up.

    Judging by the lunchtime news, they will be lucky to put a couple of football teams together, having any effect only the disturbed dreams of Tories, who are desperately looking for an enemy to blame, something, anything to deflect attention from the real failings and issues.
    Many of the survivors are extremely angry at this March, as they honestly
    feel it's using the horror of Glenfell as an excuse.. This is not the time for
    gaining political points...
    Corbyn has shown himself to come over as a very warm and sympathetic
    man...but not everyone can wear their feeling on their sleeve...

    It brings to mind my late husbands female Oncologist. My husband was
    always shocked that she always had a poker face...
    After my Darling died, I returned to the hospital to thank all the staff...I knocked on this Doctors door and she hugged me and broke down in
    tears... Since then I really do try not to judge people by their outward
    actions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    The Express has been so busily working itself into a froth, it has probably created more publicity for this protest march than anyone else, personally wasn't aware of this march until you brought it up.

    Judging by the lunchtime news, they will be lucky to put a couple of football teams together, having any effect only the disturbed dreams of Tories, who are desperately looking for an enemy to blame, something, anything to deflect attention from the real failings and issues.

    Comrades were mustered over social media to join the conspiracy 'class war' revolution.

    I guess Mc Donnell will blame it on a clash with the summer solstice
    with the hard left turnout around 200 to the 22,000 soft left at Stonehenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post

    Comrades were mustered over social media to join the conspiracy 'class war' revolution.

    I guess Mc Donnell will blame it on a clash with the summer solstice
    with the hard left turnout around 200 to the 22,000 soft left at Stonehenge.
    Your paranoia is showing, very few if any could care less about some opportunist rabble trying to cash in on a tragedy, all those affected have every right to feel aggrieved, yet in Tory la-la land this is some Socialist conspiracy to over throw the government.

    Can you and others of your political leaning never see that just because someone/anyone, wants to see a fairer society, feels that Tory philosophy and policies are unjust? does not make us anarchists or revolutionaries, as with any rent a mob type gathering I would imagine very few are there due to any real conviction, mainly looking to cause trouble with a bit of rioting and possibly looting thrown in for good measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    Many of the survivors are extremely angry at this March, as they honestly
    feel it's using the horror of Glenfell as an excuse.. This is not the time for
    gaining political points...
    Corbyn has shown himself to come over as a very warm and sympathetic
    man...but not everyone can wear their feeling on their sleeve...

    It brings to mind my late husbands female Oncologist. My husband was
    always shocked that she always had a poker face...
    After my Darling died, I returned to the hospital to thank all the staff...I knocked on this Doctors door and she hugged me and broke down in
    tears... Since then I really do try not to judge people by their outward
    actions..
    Would agree with you 100% and judging by the turnout so do the vast majority, whatever their political leanings.

    May I just point out, it is Hamble who is trying to show this march as some sort of Labour inspired action, it isn't.

    The tragedy must not be turned into a political bunfight, but I feel the subsequent investigation, will, like it or not have some political fall out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Your paranoia is showing, very few if any could care less about some opportunist rabble trying to cash in on a tragedy, all those affected have every right to feel aggrieved, yet in Tory la-la land this is some Socialist conspiracy to over throw the government.

    Can you and others of your political leaning never see that just because someone/anyone, wants to see a fairer society, feels that Tory philosophy and policies are unjust? does not make us anarchists or revolutionaries, as with any rent a mob type gathering I would imagine very few are there due to any real conviction, mainly looking to cause trouble with a bit of rioting and possibly looting thrown in for good measure.
    Socialism is not a 'fair' system so sod that for a lark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Would agree with you 100% and judging by the turnout so do the vast majority, whatever their political leanings.

    May I just point out, it is Hamble who is trying to show this march as some sort of Labour inspired action, it isn't.

    The tragedy must not be turned into a political bunfight, but I feel the subsequent investigation, will, like it or not have some political fall out.
    WARNING following the article readers comments have not been vetted for leftie consumption.


    John McDonnell spoke at a rally convened by the Marxist group that organised today’s ‘Day of Rage’ and has repeatedly backed their campaigning activities, Guido can reveal. The Shadow Chancellor was the headline speaker at a demonstration organised by the*Movement for Justice by Any Means Necessary (MFJ), the same hard-left group behind the protest threatening to bring “rage” to the streets this afternoon. McDonnell addressed the MFJ-organised rally at Harmondsworth Detention Centre in his Hayes and Harlington constituency three years ago.*McDonnell was so proud of his attendance at the MFJ-organised rally that he even tweeted about it…


    https://order-order.com/2017/06/21/m...d-day-of-rage/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Socialism is not a 'fair' system so sod that for a lark.
    Total Socialism is just as oppressive, divisive, discriminatory and biased as our present government would like to be, thanks to the "massive vote of confidence" from the electorate, the Queen's speech today managed to lose much of the Tory's plans, maybe, just maybe enough Tories will realise that most of our population are normal people who wish to get on with their lives, are prepared to work and pay their way, but want to see a much more equal spread of the alleged riches in this country.

    There has to be a way where true innovators and entrepreneurs can develop and prosper, but also where ordinary workers can earn a wage which gives them a decent standard of living, where key public services are properly funded and maintained.

    The main problem being that the financiers rule, even when they screw the system and need taxpayers money to stay afloat, the top brass continue to rake in ludicrous incomes, frankly if most of us made such a pig's ear of our jobs as they did, we would be out the door so fast our feet wouldn't touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    WARNING following the article readers comments have not been vetted for leftie consumption.


    John McDonnell spoke at a rally convened by the Marxist group that organised today’s ‘Day of Rage’ and has repeatedly backed their campaigning activities, Guido can reveal. The Shadow Chancellor was the headline speaker at a demonstration organised by the*Movement for Justice by Any Means Necessary (MFJ), the same hard-left group behind the protest threatening to bring “rage” to the streets this afternoon. McDonnell addressed the MFJ-organised rally at Harmondsworth Detention Centre in his Hayes and Harlington constituency three years ago.*McDonnell was so proud of his attendance at the MFJ-organised rally that he even tweeted about it…


    https://order-order.com/2017/06/21/m...d-day-of-rage/
    If I was so inclined to trawl through the internet it would be very easy to drag out of the rag bag any number of unsavoury connections to politicians of all shades, am far more concerned with what they are doing right now.

    Please find something more representative than "Guido" if you wish to taken seriously.

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