What exactly is Political Correctness

[said]

Political Correctness has become a huge problem among society. The effect is to stop free speech and prevent people speaking the truth. This aspect introduced by a mostly young society has become popular with the advent of social media. Social media has allowed singular persons, taking a personal offence at some inference or statement, spoken or written, to generate a mob response.

The surprising affect is that normally sensible members of society have accepted this mob protest, and act upon it as if it is a legal requirement. It is not! Civility is practised by all responsible people - but Political Correctness is nothing more than an act to mollify younger members of society who misinterpret our spoken language. Who so often contradict even themselves.

It is time that people rejected the Nanny State. We are not helping the young people by agreeing with them, it is for those who do understand about socialising, to correct these adolescent misunderstandings. Mob Rule will never teach anyone anything.

Do you agree?

[dexie]

As Harry Truman said in 1945 – “Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of sh*t by clean end!”

[seivad]

As Harry Truman said in 1945 – “Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of sh*t by clean end!”

Your first clue that the above is false... the term "mainstream media". Really, in 1945?

[Styx]

Political Correctness has become a huge problem among society. The effect is to stop free speech and prevent people speaking the truth. This aspect introduced by a mostly young society has become popular with the advent of social media. Social media has allowed singular persons, taking a personal offence at some inference or statement, spoken or written, to generate a mob response.

The surprising affect is that normally sensible members of society have accepted this mob protest, and act upon it as if it is a legal requirement. It is not! Civility is practised by all responsible people - but Political Correctness is nothing more than an act to mollify younger members of society who misinterpret our spoken language. Who so often contradict even themselves.

It is time that people rejected the Nanny State. We are not helping the young people by agreeing with them, it is for those who do understand about socialising, to correct these adolescent misunderstandings. Mob Rule will never teach anyone anything.

Do you agree?

You may find the following article interesting.

https://www.academia.org/the-origins...l-correctness/

[caveywavey]

A n*****, a P*** and a J** met in a pub and said it's great to meet up and have a drink together. No punch line.

I think it's time that we moved on from Love thy Neighbour, the Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnett and all the other insidious sit coms that dominated the 70's and 80's.

If you think political correctness is stopping you from free speech, you have nothing worth saying, or you cross the boundaries of what is acceptable.

It's quite simple. If you have a valid point to make, you can make it well without being racist, homophobic or sexist. If your point is likely to cause racial hatred or be considered hate speech, then no way are you allowed to carry that out.

I bet you'd be the first to condemn Abu Hamza and his hook. Defend his free speech, would you?

[salus.populi]

The term "politically correct, was first used in thr 18th century but its loony left associations became common in thr 1980s so it predates social media and the current generation of adolescents by a long way. As usual said is spouting garbage.

[gazaprop]

A n*****, a P*** and a J** met in a pub and said it's great to meet up and have a drink together. No punch line.

I think it's time that we moved on from Love thy Neighbour, the Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnett and all the other insidious sit coms that dominated the 70's and 80's.

If you think political correctness is stopping you from free speech, you have nothing worth saying, or you cross the boundaries of what is acceptable.

It's quite simple. If you have a valid point to make, you can make it well without being racist, homophobic or sexist. If your point is likely to cause racial hatred or be considered hate speech, then no way are you allowed to carry that out.

I bet you'd be the first to condemn Abu Hamza and his hook. Defend his free speech, would you?

Absolute tosh! Which leaflet or text book did you lift that little lot from?

If something is not allowed to be said or written then how on earth can it be challenged - or have those fluent in 'trendy-speak' found a way to police our thoughts now.
A fear of causing offence allowed wholesale abuse of young girls by Asians to go unchallenged for years. That is a fact not some nonsensical babble about hate.

[Hamble]

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"Since the late 1980s, the term has come to refer to avoiding language or behavior that can be seen as excluding, marginalizing, or insulting groups of people considered disadvantaged or discriminated against, especially groups defined by sex or race. In public discourse and the media, it is generally used as a pejorative, implying that these policies are excessive...……………...

Early-to-mid 20th century

In the early-to-mid 20th century, the phrase "politically correct" was used to describe strict adherence to a range of ideological orthodoxies. In 1934, The New York Times reported that Nazi Germany was granting reporting permits "only to pure 'Aryans' whose opinions are politically correct."

As Marxist-Leninist movements gained political power, the phrase came to be associated with accusations of dogmatic application of doctrine, in debates between American Communists and American Socialists. This usage referred to the Communist party line which, in the eyes of the Socialists, provided "correct" positions on all political matters. According to American educator Herbert Kohl, writing about debates in New York in the late 1940s and early 1950s,


The term "politically correct" was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the CP line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance."

[said]

Your first clue that the above is false... the term "mainstream media". Really, in 1945?

None the less - it fits!

[said]

So how would you change the situation?

[said]

There is civility that most people abide by - but when you have ridiculous protests that claim to be 'racist',' homophobic' etc., that have been part of traditional British life, that is when it is stupid.
According to PC, the British are not allowed to use the terms 'Jock', 'Paddy' or 'Taffy' anymore. Yet these were terms of endearment for people of neighbouring countries, and often used jovially. In turn we were called 'Limeys' - did it ever harm anyone? A famous brand of jam used golliwogs for its promotion for decades. But were told to stop using it in case it caused offence?? What? When people of all colours used the product - did it harm anyone? The situation is really ridiculous - we are not supposed to use the term 'n......r' when referring to a black person, yet they use the term among their own social groups, in their songs and it is used often abroad in other countries - nicknames are not offensive, it is the way they are used, but do any of the PC people see that? No! You refer to Abu Hamza and free speech. Yes, he should be allowed to say whatever he wants to, providing he is not acting in a manner to incite criminal acts which would be uncivil. Similarly to someone using the term n...r in a derogatory manner in order to cause trouble. But many people do not seem to see the difference and the way that society is going - they will never learn the difference.

[said]

PC speeches are mere excuses for various arguments where someone cannot argue realistically. If you blame Marxism - then you lay the blame completely on the Labour Party, who follow this doctrine. This includes the 'Wolf in Sheeps clothing' Fabian Society to whom many of the leaders belong, the Labour Union groups who follow Marx and also to Momentum a branch Labour supporter group who also follow Marxism.

According to many people's belief, this doctrine exists today to change and weaken society sufficiently so that people will become to rely on a new form of politics that will allow for a new persuasion to be introduced, i.e. that they will be able to put their own footprint on politics.

[Toodles McGinty]

Political Correctness has become a huge problem among society. The effect is to stop free speech and prevent people speaking the truth.

No it doesn't. It's a complaint, by usually older white males, usually accompanied by the words 'gone mad', that they can't keep spewing forth their particular brand of bigotry and rancid points of view about anybody that isn't an older white male. A complaint that somebody can't be a complete gobshite and say whatever pops up in their thick skulls without a filter.

..but when you have ridiculous protests that claim to be 'racist',' homophobic' etc., that have been part of traditional British life, that is when it is stupid.

Being racist or homophobic isn't part of 'traditional British life'. It was, if you go back decades, deemed acceptable by some. But the point is, we evolve. A lot of things, if you go back far enough, were part of 'traditional British life'. Slavery. Rape within marriage. Women being paid less than men for the same job. Sending kids up chimneys. Workhouses. All traditional. None acceptable now. You don't need to be some Social Justice Warrior to practice civility.

British are not allowed to use the terms 'Jock', 'Paddy' or 'Taffy' anymore...
...The situation is really ridiculous - we are not supposed to use the term 'n......r' when referring to a black person, yet they use the term among their own social groups

I don't think Jock, Paddy or Taffy are taboo. If the Scot, Irish or Welsh person doesn't mind. As for the 'N' word, it doesn't matter if every black person in the world says it 20 times a day. You know that a white person saying it is offensive, and you know why. Unless you are pathologically stupid, or have this massive 'white men rule the world' complex, you know why. Try being a decent human being that doesn't need to drag others down or belittle them. Or the next time you feel the urge to say something you think might be offensive, use a thesaurus. There's probably a way of making your point with being a gigantic bell end.

[gsgsgs]

A famous brand of jam used golliwogs for its promotion for decades. But were told to stop using it in case it caused offence??

The reason why the term golliwog is now deemed offensive is because brain dead Neanderthals use it so.


There are many words that we no longer consider acceptable as the minority, usually bigoted members of our society use them as insults, we no longer use the terms imbecile or moron when in the past both were a legitimate term, however became words used offensively.

[salus.populi]

The situation is really ridiculous - we are not supposed to use the term 'n......r' when referring to a black person, yet they use the term among their own social groups, in their songs

Can you give a few examples of how you personally would use that word in a non offensive way?