Westminster Motorist on Cyclist Attack

[Hamble]

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"His brother said he had been planning a trip back home to see his family, having not seen them for some time."

If that statement is true then why was he granted 'asylum' in the UK?

[The PNP]

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"His brother said he had been planning a trip back home to see his family, having not seen them for some time."

If that statement is true then why was he granted 'asylum' in the UK?

This is the problem with the asylum system as it stands at present. 'There's a war on at home, if you send me back I might get shot'.....When the situation later calms down, the seeker has no motivation to migrate back home, as he/she (and dependents) now has U.K. nationality.

[said]

This is the problem with the asylum system as it stands at present. 'There's a war on at home, if you send me back I might get shot'.....When the situation later calms down, the seeker has no motivation to migrate back home, as he/she (and dependents) now has U.K. nationality.

Almost but not quite! In most countries that the asylum seeker comes from they have compulsory conscription. If they refuse that duty, the authorities go looking for them, if they are found they get sent to prison, unless they have been smuggled out of the country. If Britain was thrown into a war situation again - none of these asylum seekers would be of any use at all - they would run away!

[said]

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"His brother said he had been planning a trip back home to see his family, having not seen them for some time."

If that statement is true then why was he granted 'asylum' in the UK?

One can be given Asylum for almost any reason - this country falls over itself to ensure that every action is PC and people are allowed their human rights - the system is abused time and time again by those willing to take advantage of it.
The UK has taken in far more immigrants and asylum seekers than any other country in the EU. Britain has one of the smallest land areas of any EU member country. The countries that claim they have taken in more - send a far greater percentage back.
The EU stated that if Britain was to leave the EU it would lose its international terrorist protection - we have not left yet and it does not appear to have done much, does it?

[The PNP]

One can be given Asylum for almost any reason - this country falls over itself to ensure that every action is PC and people are allowed their human rights - the system is abused time and time again by those willing to take advantage of it.

Personally, I'd provide decent camp-style accommodation in a nice quiet spot for them to chill....I.e. weather might be lousy, but there's plenty of land going spare for asylum camps in the Hebrides - till they decide to go back.

[said]

I don't know what video you watched, but the car clearly ploughed through cyclists & pedestrians, and didn't brake.


The car accelerated away after hitting the cyclists/pedestrians. It came to a halt when it crashed into the barrier, which was some distance away.

I watched several video's all showing the same scenes. considering that the camera's were roof top fixed CCTV camera's, the footage is very shaky and has been speeded up. There are numerous conflicting statements being issued publicly. There are no photos taken from witnesses personal phones published on the internet. The other facts are as I have stated - a speeding car would have caused far more damage and would have suffered damage to its body work - this car did not. If a flying saucer landed complete with little Martians, you would all believe it.

[Darkside]

Probably originally came by boat across the Med, seeking asylum from war in Sudan. Imo, these groups should only receive temporary asylum in the EU during the troubles in their homelands - then be repatriated. I can see no need to grant permanent citizenship. Whilst purely economic migrants should be immediately returned to wherever they came from.

I agree 100%

[said]

Personally, I'd provide decent camp-style accommodation in a nice quiet spot for them to chill....I.e. weather might be lousy, but there's plenty of land going spare for asylum camps in the Hebrides - till they decide to go back.

There are a number of immigrants that they have sent to the Western Isles of Scotland - which is very unfair to the local people as they have their own secular Island way of life. Surely there must be some unoccupied island somewhere - where they can all be sent.

[steve]

IMO from the video he panic manoeuvred with the ambulance behind and then overtaking.

Very bad driving and not terror. Should be done for dangerous driving and Uber will reject his application.

Terrorists don’t do it in knackered Fiestas, car was previously an insurance write off.

[The PNP]

IMO from the video he panic manoeuvred with the ambulance behind and then overtaking.

Very bad driving and not terror. Should be done for dangerous driving and Uber will reject his application.

Terrorists don’t do it in knackered Fiestas, car was previously an insurance write off.

It is possible he may have been spooked into action prematurely, thinking the police were on to him when he heard a siren behind. But I don't doubt he was planning an attack.
Consider:
1. The Fiesta was very likely all he had at his disposal.
2. A report that there was 'radical' preaching at his mosque.
3. He had no valid reason to be in that location - and had already done a 'circuit' past Parliament to presumably suss out the lie of the land.

[steve]

In a Fiesta? Personally I think it was an accident and bad driving as would be anywhere else except Westminster

[Styx]

In a Fiesta? Personally I think it was an accident and bad driving as would be anywhere else except Westminster

Most innocent people have the common sense to cooperate with the Police.

[Alikado]

It is possible he may have been spooked into action prematurely, thinking the police were on to him when he heard a siren behind. But I don't doubt he was planning an attack.
Consider:
1. The Fiesta was very likely all he had at his disposal.
2. A report that there was 'radical' preaching at his mosque.
3. He had no valid reason to be in that location - and had already done a 'circuit' past Parliament to presumably suss out the lie of the land.

He was in the area to go to the Sudanese Embassy to get a visa.

[steve]

Most innocent people have the common sense to cooperate with the Police.

A good solicitor would say to keep silent or you’ll end up on a terrorism charge

[Styx]

A good solicitor would say to keep silent or you’ll end up on a terrorism charge

Time will tell.