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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    I agree with Dav. The National media has now earned itself the title of Mind Management Media by the fact that it can print anything at will and that people will believe it. I believe that a Labour Party newspaper printed this article, that May would hold a VOTE on the issue. Since 84% of the electorate are against fox hunting - there is no need for anyone to worry about it.
    I am sure that May will be far more occupied in dealing with election issues and how to put right Labour's historic damage to the UK when it accommodated an illegal entry into the EEC/EU - than to bother with a controversial minority group of hunting people.


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    I wouldn't call it a non-story. May has stated on video that she's in favour of fox hunting. I think that speaks volumes about her character.

    It appeals to those small business owning, middle class and middle class-aspiring types who dream of being accepted into the upper echelons, but never will be. It seems that most of Southport's small business is populated by them. It isn't, just seems that way.

    There is something fundamentally missing from this type. A lack of empathy for the most vulnerable in our society that borders on the psychopath, but always flamboyantly announcing how much the club / hall / chapter has done for charity. You can usually throw in a good pinch of good natured racism ("I don't care, I'll say it" while beaming at similarly minded white middle aged buddies).

    If you don't recognise the type, you're either lucky, or it's probably you.

    More then 84% of the general population are against blood sports! The bill will never get through parliament and May is fully aware of that. Few people are aware of the amount of cruelty to animals that does occur in the UK - have you ever witnessed a rabbit suffering from Myxomatosis ? It is a very painful and disabilitating disease! Councils are responsible for employing agencies to introduce this on a regular basis to quell the numbers of rabbits in the country. Have you ever visited an abattoir? Seen the fear in the animals eyes? Animals do have brains! People are very quick to protest against one form of cruelty in which they play no part - but conveniently ignore cruelty that they are involved in.

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    I am sure that May will be far more occupied in dealing with election issues and how to put right Labour's historic damage to the UK when it accommodated an illegal entry into the EEC/EU - than to bother with a controversial minority group of hunting people.
    Are you rewriting History or just ignorant of the Truth Sir Edward Heath took this Country into the EEC/EU. Christ Labour didn't start the First World War - Shoot Kennedy - Throw Maxwell off his boat - Fly planes into the World Trade Centre - just in case you are not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    Are you rewriting History or just ignorant of the Truth Sir Edward Heath took this Country into the EEC/EU. Christ Labour didn't start the First World War - Shoot Kennedy - Throw Maxwell off his boat - Fly planes into the World Trade Centre - just in case you are not sure.
    Ted Heath took us into the Common Market, John Major took us into EU.

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    Tony Blair PM 1997-2007

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    "1 May 2004: Ten new countries join enlarged EU


    Today 10 countries join the European Union. That is the easy bit. The problems start here. Forget the politics, although they are complex enough. Take a look at the economics: first, the mismatch between the economic strength of the established members and the new entrants. Even on the most optimistic projections, it will take a generation for the accession states to catch up with the other 15. The imbalance has sparked worries that enlargement will mean investment flowing one way in search of cheap labour and migrants moving the other way in search of better pay.


    -------------------

    The process of establishing freedom of movement for all nationals of Member States was finalized with the signing of the Maastricht Treaty in 1992, which created the European Union (EU) and introduced the concept of a common European citizenship.

    As the process of encouraging migration and easing travel restrictions continued, emphasis was placed on reducing border control formalities within Europe. The Schengen Agreement, which first went into effect in 1995, created a common, essentially borderless area between Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain, wherein travel credentials were only required at the external borders of this area.

    Two years later, the Schengen rules were incorporated into the Treaty of Amsterdam, and by 1999 European citizens were free to cross most intra-European borders without having to show their passports. As of this writing, the Schengen Area encompasses 25 European countries, three of which are not members of the European Union.

    EU Expansion: The Mobility of Central and Eastern Europeans

    In May 2004, the 15 states of the European Union (EU-15) welcomed ten new Member States in what was the largest expansion in the history of European integration.

    The new Member States included eight countries (also called the A-8) from the other side of the former Iron Curtain: Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, and the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, which had still been part of the Soviet Union just 13 years earlier. At the same time, membership was granted to the island states of Cyprus and Malta.

    The enlargement was the target of much controversy, as media estimates of the potential wave of economically motivated migration from the Central and Eastern European countries varied from 5 million to 40 million people. The rate of migration was estimated to be high because differences in income and the standard of living between the new Member States and the EU-15 were large: in 2003, the average wage in Latvia — the poorest among the new Member States — was just one-eighth of the average wage in the EU-15.

    Although previous enlargements of the European Union had not resulted in major outflows of workers from new Member States, this time was thought to be different. It was feared that unlimited labor migration from the A-8 would cause serious problems for the labor markets of the EU-15. Similar fears related to wage dumping and potential "welfare tourism" to the EU-15 were expressed again when Bulgaria and Romania joined the European Union in 2007.

    During the accession negotiations, a transitional period of seven years was established so that each old Member State could determine when it was ready to open its borders to workers from the new Member States. The transitional measures were based on a "2+3+2 model," where the restrictions on labor market entry of new citizens had to be reviewed after two years, and again three years later. A final two-year phase of restrictions was permitted only in cases of serious disturbances within the individual labor markets of the EU-15. (The restrictions did not apply to the citizens of Cyprus and Malta.)

    Free movement between all Member States was thus to be guaranteed by May 2011 at the latest for the citizens of the countries that joined in 2004, and by January 2014 for citizens of Bulgaria and Romania.

    Only three Member States — Ireland, Sweden, and the United Kingdom — decided to open their borders immediately, the former two mainly because their growing and relatively open economies needed labor, and the latter because its regulated labor market was believed to be able to maintain wages at the collectively agreed upon levels."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dav View Post
    Don't worry, Diane Abacus and Marxist McDonnell are doing the sums so there will be plenty left on the magic money tree as always. Spend! Spend! Spend!
    Is this the same "magic money tree" the Tories have been using while they rack up more borrowing and debt than any previous government since WW2, yet for all this borrowing and debt the general population are faced with reduced services, austerity measures of any and every description (all for our own good of course) the people truly profiting are the finance sector, the multi-nationals who drive a coach and horses through the tax system, while busily cutting jobs, outsourcing jobs, using every dodge in the book to cut terms and conditions for employees, in many cases employing as few people as possible preferring to contract jobs out to agencies, payroll companies etc;

    Why do people continue with this belief that Labour governments have always overspent, while the fiscally aware Tories have kept the economy on an even keel? when the only way the Tories cut expenditure is by clobbering working people, cutting services, throwing people out of work, in fact Tories have NEVER made meaningful investment in the country preferring instead to hand control to their paymasters and let the public pick up the bill, the Tories detest public services and can't wait to hand everything over to their mates, even throwing public money at them as well in order to ensure that the "right" people make the lion's share of any profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    I agree with Dav. The National media has now earned itself the title of Mind Management Media by the fact that it can print anything at will and that people will believe it. I believe that a Labour Party newspaper printed this article, that May would hold a VOTE on the issue. Since 84% of the electorate are against fox hunting - there is no need for anyone to worry about it.
    I am sure that May will be far more occupied in dealing with election issues and how to put right Labour's historic damage to the UK when it accommodated an illegal entry into the EEC/EU - than to bother with a controversial minority group of hunting people.
    Strange that right whingers only make a fuss about the media when something derogatory is printed about the Tories, yet no complaints when the majority of the media (which) is Tory supporting can print Tory propaganda and even outright lies with impunity.

    As regards hunting with dogs, certainly there should be more important matters to deal with, but if the Tories achieve an increased majority old ideologies will surface and will romp through parliament, the wishes of the majority of people will count for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Strange that right whingers only make a fuss about the media when something derogatory is printed about the Tories, yet no complaints when the majority of the media (which) is Tory supporting can print Tory propaganda and even outright lies with impunity.

    As regards hunting with dogs, certainly there should be more important matters to deal with, but if the Tories achieve an increased majority old ideologies will surface and will romp through parliament, the wishes of the majority of people will count for nothing.
    Don't you wish Labour hadn't bailed out the Casino Bankers and let them go to the wall the Tory voters would have had something to really squeal about. The fact that THEIR Backers caused the Banking catastrophe is lost on them. Us Peasants would have survived but the Tory Elite would be babbling imbeciles in the nearest thing to an asylum.

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    On BBC Breakfast Television this morning it was reported that the Average wage has dropped £10 a week from the level it was at in 2007 (last7 of those years under the wonderful Tories) the number of people on Zero Hours contract is at almost 1million. Funnily enough I read the other day that the number of £BILLIONaires in the UK has risen, so obviously their obligation to the RICH is working fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    On BBC Breakfast Television this morning it was reported that the Average wage has dropped £10 a week from the level it was at in 2007 (last7 of those years under the wonderful Tories) the number of people on Zero Hours contract is at almost 1million. Funnily enough I read the other day that the number of £BILLIONaires in the UK has risen, so obviously their obligation to the RICH is working fine.
    Yet for no apparent reason, people on low wages or irregular hours seem to see a party who want to do something about it as the enemy. This appears to be because the same leader supported a cause which ceased to be an issue 20 years with the Good Friday agreement. Meanwhile they place trust in Theresa May to deliver Brexit. This time last year, May was a Remainer.

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