Tom Daley and his husband are expecting a baby

[Ceam]

Personal insults are used as an excuse for those who cannot provide a sensible argument, did you know that?

Not an insult, just an observation going off the nonsense you post.

[seivad]

Which reminds me! You are in Canada, yes? Watch the lorry drivers very carefully now - you are about to receive a number of agency drivers from countries where HGV drivers need only to show they can turn a farm vehicle around on a farm to pass their tests. On busy roads this can lead to problems as the UK has discovered.

Ooh, shaking in my snow boots!

Do you think that foreign drivers (apart from Americans) can turn up here and drive commercial vehicles without a Canadian licence? There's a mandatory training period, then they have to take the appropriate test. I assume that should weed out the farm boys.

[VB123]

I can understand your objections to this very controversial topic - and yes, there are many couples who cannot have children for various reasons and adoption or IVF are of great benefit to such people and the children grow up in good environments. For same sex parents the issues are not as straight forward. Ignoring that it is a well known fact that children who are "different" in some way, will always attract bullying at school - there are far more deeper issues to consider. One of the partners will have contributed eggs/sperm to the child, while the other will have had nothing to do with its creation. Over time, would this not cause some resentment in the isolated partner? A new born baby is given time to "bond" with its mother as a necessary part of its development. Also, the baby has a great advantage if it is breast fed. The reason why a baby of two female partners is better off than a baby with two male partners. The video that I referred to could have been acted out by actors - if that is the case, what would the reason be, other than to draw attention to what I am trying to get across. If the video is real life - then, for those who understand children - it can be seen that the daughter's body language is well at odds with that of a natural child. This is the evidence that I have witnessed myself - two children I have known placed in such family arrangements, have not produced happy well balanced adults, far from it. But I have only known two - a small sample. If anyone knows of other children in the same situation and has observed alternative personalities - then I would be very happy to have been proved wrong. But a plethora of recent reports published provides evidence to support my own views.
While adults are being given their human right to choose to have children - those children are being deprived of their human right in choosing the type of family life they should be given.
In other instances, wealth is incorporated to disguise other issues as with certain entertainment artists who pretend certain children are their own when they are most clearly not - children are also being used as commodities in the public eye and gay people are quick to adopt the same modern outlook. Elton John, uses children as a status symbol - John's own mother has stated that he will do 'anything for money'. Elton John and his partner were in working in the US and left the children in the UK with a baby sitter - is that loving, concerned parents?

Good God, are you still spouting the same c***? Give it a rest! I can’t be bothered commenting on most of the c***, but as for kids you know not being happy placed in “the same situation” - who says it had anything to do with who they were placed with - rather than the fact they were unhappy being removed from parents/given up for adoption and living with strangers? If they were fostered and moved around from one place to the next, again, with different strangers, I can imagine it would result in unhappy kids. I know people who were very happy in their adoptive homes and others who weren’t, and it had nothing to do with anyone’s sexuality. Oh and if you are talking about the twins who were born to a surrogate mother for the gay men, the kids were just spoilt brats - the girl has £5k a month allowance - that is the problem, not the sexuality of their Dad’s. Stop twisting stories to suit your agenda.

[said]

Good God, are you still spouting the same c***? Give it a rest! I can’t be bothered commenting on most of the c***, but as for kids you know not being happy placed in “the same situation” - who says it had anything to do with who they were placed with - rather than the fact they were unhappy being removed from parents/given up for adoption and living with strangers? If they were fostered and moved around from one place to the next, again, with different strangers, I can imagine it would result in unhappy kids. I know people who were very happy in their adoptive homes and others who weren’t, and it had nothing to do with anyone’s sexuality. Oh and if you are talking about the twins who were born to a surrogate mother for the gay men, the kids were just spoilt brats - the girl has £5k a month allowance - that is the problem, not the sexuality of their Dad’s. Stop twisting stories to suit your agenda.

You seem to have taken much time and effort in 'not commenting'. Leads me to believe that you don't know what you are talking about!

[said]

Ooh, shaking in my snow boots!

Do you think that foreign drivers (apart from Americans) can turn up here and drive commercial vehicles without a Canadian licence? There's a mandatory training period, then they have to take the appropriate test. I assume that should weed out the farm boys.

I really hope so! That was what was supposed to happen in the UK - but it was claimed that they were so desperate for drivers over here, that several got through under the net. I only mentioned it because road conditions in the winter over there can be far more severe than in the UK.

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Not an insult, just an observation going off the nonsense you post.

Insults are verbal, observations are optical!

[Ceam]

Insults are verbal, observations are optical!

Well in that case it can't have been an insult, As nothing was verbal, Going off your logic of course. As I read the crap you post I guess I used my eyes so it was optical. So observation it is then.

[VB123]

You seem to have taken much time and effort in 'not commenting'. Leads me to believe that you don't know what you are talking about!

Again, changing things to suit your agenda - I said I can’t be bothered commenting on MOST of it. How does not commenting on your ridiculous beliefs show I don’t know what I am talking about? I didn’t comment because it was drivel from your own head yet again. But if you insist, you state that having two female gays as parents is better than males as breastfeeding is better for baby - that is bloody hilarious! You do realise that you don’t produce milk unless you have a baby?? Oh, dear, showing your intelligence there Said when you don’t even know basic human biology. You state a newborn baby needs to bond to the mother, but if the child isn’t going to be brought up with the woman (not necessarily her eggs remember), then bonding with the woman would be wrong. Most of the women I know didn’t breastfeed or only for a few weeks and all of our kids were perfectly healthy when they were young and now healthy adults - so you are scraping the barrel with the breastfeeding. By the way I know a gay couple who have a child and they are wonderful, model parents, yet I see plenty of heterosexual couples by mine whose kids behave appallingly. This is 2018, not when you were at school 70 years ago (assuming your age due to your archaic views - no offence to others around that age on here ), children are no longer just brought up in households with their biological Mum and Dad - there a lots of single parents, kids living with step-parents and step-brothers/sisters, have half- siblings, adopted kids, foster families, etc, so kids just see having gay parents as just another type of family unit, they don’t see it as “different” in a negative way anymore. You need to get over your obsession and go and talk to someone about your deep-seated prejudice against gay people. Why don’t you try to be a nice person for once - life is far too short to feel such disdain towards others in life.

[VB123]

Well in that case it can't have been an insult, As nothing was verbal, Going off your logic of course. As I read the crap you post I guess I used my eyes so it was optical. So observation it is then.

Ha,ha, well done Ceam