Tarleton Bypass

[chrismatt.]

Delays on the A565 towards Southport; looks like a lorry has skidded across the road

[roving-eye]

https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/ne...s-55027126.htm

[said]

Delays on the A565 towards Southport; looks like a lorry has skidded across the road

Amazing just how many vans and cars were speeding last night out on the roads where there were icy patches in places. There were at least two vehicles travelling at around sixty mph in a 20 mph zone and others most definitely above the speed limits.

[Ceam]

You'll always get the idiots. Hence why 20mph zones are pointless.

Not that I think it's the least bit relevant to the new article or this thread.

[Little Londoner]

Amazing just how many vans and cars were speeding last night out on the roads where there were icy patches in places. There were at least two vehicles travelling at around sixty mph in a 20 mph zone and others most definitely above the speed limits.

The by-pass was blocked by a skidded lorry driven by a supposedly "professional" driver. So was it the driver not giving due consideration to the conditions or was it simply his LUCK running out. When he wakes up no doubt our Tasmanian spokesman will give his theory aided and abetted by the cyclist.

[justbecause]

The by-pass was blocked by a skidded lorry driven by a supposedly "professional" driver. So was it the driver not giving due consideration to the conditions or was it simply his LUCK running out. When he wakes up no doubt our Tasmanian spokesman will give his theory aided and abetted by the cyclist.

I don’t understand why you are referring to the driver as a “supposedly professional driver”, and why you are questioning whether or not he was driving properly. You’re obviously have no idea of how a 44 tonne articulated vehicle can behave in icy conditions, having probably never driven anything bigger than a family saloon.

[Ceam]

I don’t understand why you are referring to the driver as a “supposedly professional driver”, and why you are questioning whether or not he was driving properly. You’re obviously have no idea of how a 44 tonne articulated vehicle can behave in icy conditions, having probably never driven anything bigger than a family saloon.

Take no notice, He's an idiot with a massive chip on his shoulder.

[said]

I don’t understand why you are referring to the driver as a “supposedly professional driver”, and why you are questioning whether or not he was driving properly. You’re obviously have no idea of how a 44 tonne articulated vehicle can behave in icy conditions, having probably never driven anything bigger than a family saloon.

I do not drive anything larger than a family car - but I would have thought that articulated lorries have more facilities for safe driving than a car does. If such lorries cannot handle a bit of ice on the road safely, then Canadian lorry drivers are pretty stuffed! Are these drivers not supposed to drive in accordance with the conditions on the roads and to allow for extra time if the roads are bad? It appears the lorry jack knifed on the road - this is surely due to heavy braking and/or using the trailer brake which would lock the wheels, and anyway - a properly trained lorry driver can drive out of a jack knife skid, or is that wrong too?

[said]

You'll always get the idiots. Hence why 20mph zones are pointless.

Not that I think it's the least bit relevant to the new article or this thread.

Think about it! What would cause an experienced driver to skid and jack knife on patches of ice on a straight road? Would that be because he was driving carefully and paying attention to the road conditions?

[limekiln]

Road conditions around Banks/ Tarleton were appalling last night. The bus I was on was slipping and sliding on Station Rd Banks and Shore Road despite driving very slowly and carefully.
No sign of a gritter, in fact I don't think the gritters know where Station Rd is; there's never any sign of one despite its being a bus route

[seivad]

I do not drive anything larger than a family car - but I would have thought that articulated lorries have more facilities for safe driving than a car does. If such lorries cannot handle a bit of ice on the road safely, then Canadian lorry drivers are pretty stuffed! Are these drivers not supposed to drive in accordance with the conditions on the roads and to allow for extra time if the roads are bad? It appears the lorry jack knifed on the road - this is surely due to heavy braking and/or using the trailer brake which would lock the wheels, and anyway - a properly trained lorry driver can drive out of a jack knife skid, or is that wrong too?

True, but they do have the benefit of chains or snow tyres. There are still a fair number of jack knifed trucks on the road though.

[said]

True, but they do have the benefit of chains or snow tyres. There are still a fair number of jack knifed trucks on the road though.

The Ice Road Truckers do not have tyre chains - perhaps the lorry drivers should have some training with them.