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Should Cosmetic Surgery be available on the NHS
The NHS is conducting a survey with regard to cosmetic surgery to ask residents for their opinion. Should such surgery be available for free on the NHS? What do you think?
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The NHS is conducting a survey with regard to cosmetic surgery to ask residents for their opinion. Should such surgery be available for free on the NHS? What do you think?
If it's for medical reason, e.g. breast replacement after cancer, scares caused by injuries. Then yes. If it's just some one wants bigger boobs or a flatter nose then no.
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Not if it is for vanity reasons. It should only be allowed if the person has suffered an accident.
Sex changes should also not be allowed on the NHS.
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
Not if it is for vanity reasons. It should only be allowed if the person has suffered an accident.
Sex changes should also not be allowed on the NHS.
I think it depends upon what you consider vanity. There is a spectrum that we all sit on from disfigured, through ugly to not handsome/pretty enough to handsome/pretty. I suspect we should all agree in principle that disfigurement is a reason for surgery, but quite difficult to define.
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
Not if it is for vanity reasons. It should only be allowed if the person has suffered an accident.
Sex changes should also not be allowed on the NHS.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Definately Agree .
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Why should sex changes not be allowed on the NHS? Are you still under the misconception that a sex change is a fashion statement? Just to update you, many people have a sex change due to the fact that they are born with a chromosomal abnormality which leads to a dysfunction within their sexual hormones causing growth of, sometimes, sexual organs that do not correspond to their sexual identity.
Feel free to look up Kleinefelter syndrome and others.
So therefore someone born with a medical condition that affects the whole of their life should not be allowed help but someone who breaks their leg while skiing should receive all the help they can get?
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Originally Posted by bambi275
Why should sex changes not be allowed on the NHS? Are you still under the misconception that a sex change is a fashion statement? Just to update you, many people have a sex change due to the fact that they are born with a chromosomal abnormality which leads to a dysfunction within their sexual hormones causing growth of, sometimes, sexual organs that do not correspond to their sexual identity.
Feel free to look up Kleinefelter syndrome and others.
So therefore someone born with a medical condition that affects the whole of their life should not be allowed help but someone who breaks their leg while skiing should receive all the help they can get?
It's only my opinion but the NHS has enough to do looking after the sick and infirm .
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
Not if it is for vanity reasons. It should only be allowed if the person has suffered an accident.
Sex changes should also not be allowed on the NHS.
Spot on plus I would also add, no corrective surgery should ever be carried out by the NHS on botched up cosmetic surgery carried out by private doctors especially those abroad...if it went wrong, tough, should have thought about the consequences before you paid.
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Originally Posted by bambi275
Why should sex changes not be allowed on the NHS? Are you still under the misconception that a sex change is a fashion statement? Just to update you, many people have a sex change due to the fact that they are born with a chromosomal abnormality which leads to a dysfunction within their sexual hormones causing growth of, sometimes, sexual organs that do not correspond to their sexual identity.
Feel free to look up Kleinefelter syndrome and others.
So therefore someone born with a medical condition that affects the whole of their life should not be allowed help but someone who breaks their leg while skiing should receive all the help they can get?
The Lancet provides information with regard to the syndrome you have referred to - it appears that the condition is relatively rare. Certain drugs can affect the human body which contributes to an increase of FSH levels, which is common for those having Kleinefelter. The natural occurrence of the syndrome is due to primary testicular failure which can happen if the testes do not grow properly or are injured. The condition was unknown prior to the 1958, and appears to have either - grown more common with the increase in illegal drug use, a known cause of sexual changes - or that the condition has received far more publicity. For the treatment on the NHS, the history of a patient suffering with this syndrome would be required to discover whether it was a natural event or if it was self induced. How did people cope with the syndrome before the NHS?
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Maybe the condition was not apparent before this time or indeed before the advent of the NHS . As with all diseases, illnesses or chromosomal abnormalities genetic mutations appear over generations dependant upon living conditions, socio-economic circumstances, even weather patterns. Your reply is similar to asking how people coped with cancer pre NHS. It was nowhere near as prevalent as it is today and neither where the technology and treatments available
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The problem is made harder when faced with a patient who says they are suicidal due to deformity or acquired or perceived disfigurement it would be hard to refuse.
I am for individual assessment/case by case basis on cosmetic surgery.
Last edited by Hamble; 12/10/2017 at 03:34 PM.
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Originally Posted by bambi275
Why should sex changes not be allowed on the NHS? Are you still under the misconception that a sex change is a fashion statement? Just to update you, many people have a sex change due to the fact that they are born with a chromosomal abnormality which leads to a dysfunction within their sexual hormones causing growth of, sometimes, sexual organs that do not correspond to their sexual identity.
Feel free to look up Kleinefelter syndrome and others.
So therefore someone born with a medical condition that affects the whole of their life should not be allowed help but someone who breaks their leg while skiing should receive all the help they can get?
The tiny number of people with Kleinefelter are not the ones shouting about gender reassignment surgery. Most of them don't even become aware of Kleinfelter until they try to conceive; they identify as the sex they were assigned at birth and wish to continue with that.
The truth remains that it is impossible to change your sex. You can mutilate your body with surgery and hormones but it will not change your sex. If people wish to go through this cosmetic exercise to try and pass as the other gender then they should do so with their own money. The help they need is psychological, not physical. All the evidence suggests that post-op transsexuals are just as likely to be suicidal as pre-op. They never become the other gender no matter how much they drag it up or how much surgery they have to affect the illusion. There's even a boom in the reversal of such surgeries. All of this should be paid for by those who wish to pass themselves off as something they are not. The NHS is for medical needs not for appearances.
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Originally Posted by dav
The tiny number of people with Kleinefelter are not the ones shouting about gender reassignment surgery. Most of them don't even become aware of Kleinfelter until they try to conceive; they identify as the sex they were assigned at birth and wish to continue with that.
The truth remains that it is impossible to change your sex. You can mutilate your body with surgery and hormones but it will not change your sex. If people wish to go through this cosmetic exercise to try and pass as the other gender then they should do so with their own money. The help they need is psychological, not physical. All the evidence suggests that post-op transsexuals are just as likely to be suicidal as pre-op. They never become the other gender no matter how much they drag it up or how much surgery they have to affect the illusion. There's even a boom in the reversal of such surgeries. All of this should be paid for by those who wish to pass themselves off as something they are not. The NHS is for medical needs not for appearances.
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