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    Oxfam

    All the dirt is starting to surface regarding the running of certain charity shops.

    My fourteen year old grandson is volunteering every Saturday morning at a well known charity shop in London..
    It is very scary when all the sad news iis involving children and putting them in harms way. ..

    I am so saddened by all this news, as I am all for children giving some time to helping others...
    What a dreadful thing that news is and the consequences are enormous.

    May those involved in all this saga rot in hell.





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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    All the dirt is starting to surface regarding the running of certain charity shops.

    My fourteen year old grandson is volunteering every Saturday morning at a well known charity shop in London..
    It is very scary when all the sad news iis involving children and putting them in harms way. ..

    I am so saddened by all this news, as I am all for children giving some time to helping others...
    What a dreadful thing that news is and the consequences are enormous.

    May those involved in all this saga rot in hell.

    This is going to be the tip of the iceberg. Sadly what will happen is everyone that has decided they have been looked at the wrong way will come out of the wood work, and the real issue will be lost in the stupidity that follows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    This is going to be the tip of the iceberg. Sadly what will happen is everyone that has decided they have been looked at the wrong way will come out of the wood work, and the real issue will be lost in the stupidity that follows.
    Trouble is people will stop donating and it's the real needy ares in the world that need this help immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    Trouble is people will stop donating and it's the real needy ares in the world that need this help immediately.
    Very true, plus of course this will be more ammunition for those opposed to aid particularly foreign aid.

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    I don't know if things have changed now but years ago Charity shops were used as 'placements' for community sentence for people unfit to do
    other penances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    All the dirt is starting to surface regarding the running of certain charity shops.

    My fourteen year old grandson is volunteering every Saturday morning at a well known charity shop in London..
    It is very scary when all the sad news iis involving children and putting them in harms way. ..

    I am so saddened by all this news, as I am all for children giving some time to helping others...
    What a dreadful thing that news is and the consequences are enormous.

    May those involved in all this saga rot in hell.
    It would appear that the incidents described involve very senior members of Oxfam working in countries where the law is more lax, even though there is a world law on Sexual Tourism.
    This could lead to all young volunteers having to be of the age 18 before being allowed to work in Charity Shops - however in some Charity shops where this is stipulated - it is abused. CBS checks normally cost £50 each year, but the Government have said that these checks are free for Volunteers so each one should apply for them. The checks are only to show that a person has not been charged with sexual offences - it does not necessarily mean that a person is not guilty of such offences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    It would appear that the incidents described involve very senior members of Oxfam working in countries where the law is more lax, even though there is a world law on Sexual Tourism.
    This could lead to all young volunteers having to be of the age 18 before being allowed to work in Charity Shops - however in some Charity shops where this is stipulated - it is abused. CBS checks normally cost £50 each year, but the Government have said that these checks are free for Volunteers so each one should apply for them. The checks are only to show that a person has not been charged with sexual offences - it does not necessarily mean that a person is not guilty of such offences.

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    An Enhanced check is only available for organisations to access on behalf of their employees, rather than to individuals. The certificate is sent to the applicant’s home address and they are required to show it to their employer prior to starting any job.

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    This level of check shows full details of a criminal record, including Cautions, Warnings, Reprimands, spent and unspent convictions. It can also search the children and vulnerable adults ‘barred list’ to see if the applicant is prohibited from working with these groups. Local police can add any relevant information about the applicant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    https://www.personnelchecks.co.uk/db...eer-dbs-check/


    Mine was renewed automatically last month.

    https://www.personnelchecks.co.uk/db...ced-dbs-check/


    Can I apply for an Enhanced Criminal Record Check?


    An Enhanced check is only available for organisations to access on behalf of their employees, rather than to individuals. The certificate is sent to the applicant’s home address and they are required to show it to their employer prior to starting any job.

    Usually, individuals in roles involving regular contact with vulnerable groups qualify for an Enhanced Check. More about DBS eligibility guidance.

    What does an Enhanced Disclosure DBS check show?


    This level of check shows full details of a criminal record, including Cautions, Warnings, Reprimands, spent and unspent convictions. It can also search the children and vulnerable adults ‘barred list’ to see if the applicant is prohibited from working with these groups. Local police can add any relevant information about the applicant.
    True! But only for those who have been caught! There are thousands of people all across the world who know how to remain hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    True! But only for those who have been caught! There are thousands of people all across the world who know how to remain hidden.
    This is true of all crimes, you get away with it, until you get caught. You don't get caught until you do it for the first time.

    I'm an insider (in the charity, not the abuse, world) I have worked for one of the large UK charities, I have worked in the developing world and I still work on contracts involving overseas aid.

    The overwhelming majority of people who work in this field are decent people, doing what they believe in, for not a great deal of money. I know people working in public health on overseas projects earning a 1/3 of what they would earn at Johns Hopkins or other large American universities. Lets not forget that.

    However, at the top of many charities, there is a particular kind of entitled, establishment figure. They seem to have the arrogance and egos that many CEO's. I read a single line in the paper last night "The Head of Safeguarding was refused a meeting with Mark Goldring, CEO of Oxfam". The CEO was so arrogant, that he refused to meet with one of his most senior officers, the one who is responsible for monitoring that employees and beneficiaries are kept safe. That says it all.

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    What I can't understand is , if an adult needs sex no problem but WHY children . These beasts should be castrated. End Of .
    REST IN PEACE THE 96.
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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    True! But only for those who have been caught! There are thousands of people all across the world who know how to remain hidden.
    I accept the truth in that.
    It is also true that new offenders are being produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    I don't know if things have changed now but years ago Charity shops were used as 'placements' for community sentence for people unfit to do
    other penances.
    Certainly used to. A friend did her community service at a certain shop near the junction of Eastbank and Tulketh St many years ago. It was quite an eye-opener. For a supposed Christian shop, they weren't very, well...Christian. Not just to her, but to all the vulnerable people they were meant to be helping.

    When I first read about the current scandal, it was a bit of an eye-roller at first. Aid workers using prostitutes? Well there's a known correlation between disasters and sexual activity. Then, as seems the norm nowadays, the horrific truth of what is going on shocked me to the core.

    The worldwide abuse of the vulnerable. The horrors of what some so called peace keeping troops are doing to kids. Men going there to protect children then forcing them into unspeakable acts. Then the reports of the charities and NGOs knowing what these men do, so they just move them to another country, another disaster, a brand new set of victims. Abusers drifting from one charity to the next. Horrific beyond words.

    Then the testimonies that these charities breeze in, dig a well (or whatever is needed) that isn't going to work properly in 6 months, breeze out and move on, because poverty doesn't make the big bucks, disasters are where the money is. As a friend put it 'you should see the car park at the *insert charity* head office - you'd think you were at Old Trafford'. I despair for humanity. I really do.

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    What I can't understand is , if an adult needs sex no problem but WHY children . These beasts should be castrated. End Of .
    According to the Guardian and the Telegraph - In this liberalistic age an individual with paedophilia has the same ingrained attraction that a heterosexual female may feel towards a male, or a homosexual feels towards their same gender. One in every thirty five males are claimed to be paedophile or have paedophile tendencies. With a population of 70 million people that is one hell of a lot!
    During an academic presentation at Cambridge University last July, it was claimed that the inclination is “natural and normal” among males. There is a growing desire for paedophilia to be legalised since it is claimed to be a natural human characteristic.

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    I would love to see a graph, and I'm sure one exists somewhere, showing for individual Charities how much of each pound donated/spent actually goes on charitable works.

    I think people would be shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    According to the Guardian and the Telegraph - In this liberalistic age an individual with paedophilia has the same ingrained attraction that a heterosexual female may feel towards a male, or a homosexual feels towards their same gender. One in every thirty five males are claimed to be paedophile or have paedophile tendencies. With a population of 70 million people that is one hell of a lot!
    During an academic presentation at Cambridge University last July, it was claimed that the inclination is “natural and normal” among males. There is a growing desire for paedophilia to be legalised since it is claimed to be a natural human characteristic.
    That sort of legalising paedophilia garbage has been tried before with a group of perverts rejoicing in the title of paedophile information exchange, it was kicked into touch then, when frankly many people had never heard of paedophilia, it will most certainly not succeed today and anyone campaigning for legalising perversion should be thoroughly investigated and hopefully jailed.

    It is not normal or natural civilised human behaviour, whatever head in the sand academics or students may think.

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