More outrage in Paris.

[rare-pepe999]

Thank you for taking the time to post that normancleture I have not come across it before.

I look forward to Rare Pepe's reply to me.

The post you are quoting was written by somebody that is uninformed on what the alt-right actually is. Believe it if you want, but its simply false.

[Ceam]

[QUOTE=torchwud;6594965]

Is it, Is it really. So you tar everyone with the same brush do you. There are extremist in every walk of life, you going to fall out with everyone on the planet. What a ridiculous out look on life.

and it's MOST Muslims are not terrorists. Many of them trying to escape the very people that are killing people around the world including them.

"most muslims are not terrorists".....by that very statement the rest are terrorists....i dont see any ukips, conservatives, evangalists, christians, etc driving trucks into innocent people on the sidewalks of europe...if your not with us your against us....

Guess I'm against you. Two recent attacks. Footballers attacked in Germany, Not Islamic terrorist but some one trying to cash in on share drops FFS.
Police shot in France, Some nut job that had already served a prison sentence for doing exactly the same before.
You can not blame a religion/culture/nation/creed/colour on the acts of a few. It's plain stupid. Was everyone in Northern Ireland an IRA terrorist? No they where not. There are extremist in every walk of life and the feed of the fears of the weak.

[normancleture]

The post you are quoting was written by somebody that is uninformed on what the alt-right actually is. Believe it if you want, but its simply false.

OK.

Let's get down to basics.

In reply to Hamble's ...

"Jewish people were not attacking and killing civilians. Their only crime was being successful in education culture and work."

You replied ...

"and the great depression"

... which is saying, in an unequivocal way, that Jewish people were responsible for the events leading up to the financial crash of 1929.

So, over to you ... what exactly did you mean by that reply?

[said]

Remove Islam from Europe. Problem solved.

It really depends on what you believe! The EU are claiming that after the finality of Brexit, the UK will no longer have the protection of the high technology and forward security information services that the EU are supposedly in possession of. Pertaining of course to the information said to pass from any or all, of the USA's twenty seven security agencies.

We are still with the EU - but there have been, supposedly, rather a large number of terrorist attacks in Europe.

Both these facts cannot be true at the same time!

[rare-pepe999]

OK.

Let's get down to basics.

In reply to Hamble's ...

"Jewish people were not attacking and killing civilians. Their only crime was being successful in education culture and work."

You replied ...

"and the great depression"

... which is saying, in an unequivocal way, that Jewish people were responsible for the events leading up to the financial crash of 1929.

So, over to you ... what exactly did you mean by that reply?

Its fairly self explanatory

If you really need to ask that question I think I'm wasting my time having a discussion with you.

[normancleture]

Its fairly self explanatory

If you really need to ask that question I think I'm wasting my time having a discussion with you.

Come along now, you need to put some flesh on the bones.

Perhaps you were thinking of this ...?

http://tinyurl.com/m5uqtno

[Hamble]

The post you are quoting was written by somebody that is uninformed on what the alt-right actually is. Believe it if you want, but its simply false.

I cross checked normancletures post and link it before replying.

I was looking forward to your reply.

[Hamble]

It really depends on what you believe! The EU are claiming that after the finality of Brexit, the UK will no longer have the protection of the high technology and forward security information services that the EU are supposedly in possession of. Pertaining of course to the information said to pass from any or all, of the USA's twenty seven security agencies.

We are still with the EU - but there have been, supposedly, rather a large number of terrorist attacks in Europe.

Both these facts cannot be true at the same time!

It makes sense to me.

Muslim's in Continental Europe do not have the same level of non discrimination as here in the UK.
This has risen with migrant and asylum seekers being housed and schooled in separate areas.

I fear the level of anger and hate in Europe
will only increase on both sides.

[Hamble]

Its fairly self explanatory

If you really need to ask that question I think I'm wasting my time having a discussion with you.

Oh come on!
I can tell by your posts you do not have a job with any power and that you would not put money in a bank or other investments.

Even with your obvious interest in history I really cannot see you earning a living by it.

I was looking forward to you managing a reply without breaking the current guidelines on anti-Semitism.


https://www.london.gov.uk/press-rele...ism-guidelines

[Alikado]

No connection.

Jewish people were not attacking and killing civilians.
Their only crime was being successful in education culture and work.

Every connection but you got hold of the wrong end of the stick, Albion wasn't pointing a finger in the Jewish direction he asking if the rhetoric was recognised as being similar to what was being directed at the Jews some 80 years ago.

[Albion102]

Every connection but you got hold of the wrong end of the stick, Albion wasn't pointing a finger in the Jewish direction he asking if the rhetoric was recognised as being similar to what was being directed at the Jews some 80 years ago.

That is exactly what I meant and Pepe has inadvertently filled in the blanks.

Put it this way - many on this site (mistakenly in my view) blame the banks for the 2007/8 depression. To me they were a convenient bogeyman and of course there was a banking crisis that triggered the economic collapse.

Historians are divided about the cause of the Great Depression, but it is a fact that the trigger was the collapse of around 7,000 banks. It is also a fact that a number of the larger international banks were owned by Jewish people. Anti-semites pushed on an open door in central Europe as a narrative that the Depression was caused by the Jews, using untrue racial stereotypes and painting it as a conspiracy that could only be cured by getting the Jews out of Europe.

Islamophobes are creating a similar narrative around muslims and terrorism.

I for the record don't agree with either narrative, but find people opening referring to "clearing the muslims out of Europe" nothing short of chilling.

[Hamble]

[QUOTE=Albion102;6595175]That is exactly what I meant and Pepe has inadvertently filled in the blanks.

Put it this way - many on this site (mistakenly in my view) blame the banks for the 2007/8 depression. To me they were a convenient bogeyman and of course there was a banking crisis that triggered the economic collapse.

Historians are divided about the cause of the Great Depression, but it is a fact that the trigger was the collapse of around 7,000 banks. It is also a fact that a number of the larger international banks were owned by Jewish people. Anti-semites pushed on an open door in central Europe as a narrative that the Depression was caused by the Jews, using untrue racial stereotypes and painting it as a conspiracy that could only be cured by getting the Jews out of Europe.

Islamophobes are creating a similar narrative around muslims and terrorism.

I for the record don't agree with either narrative, but find people opening referring to "clearing the muslims out of Europe" nothing short of chilling.[/QUOTE



Quote
"Nazi leader's son: 'Don't trust us' Germans
Germany could return to authoritarianism if the economic conditions were to seriously worsen in the country, the son of Hans Frank the governor general of Nazi occupied Poland during World War Two, has told BBC Hardtalk..


"As long as our economy is great, and as long as we make money everything is very democratic," said Niklas Frank, but "if we have five to 10 years heavy economic problems the swamp is a lake, and is a sea and will swallow again, everything," he added.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39705689

Far more scary!

[Albion102]

It's a bit of a facile comment to say that if the economic and social conditions were right, something bad could happen in Germany. It is of course true and Germany is not the peace loving hippy liberal place that the preunification Federal Republic was. If these conditions occur, the scapegoats are far more likely to be the Turks, other muslims and the Poles than the Jews. But we must always be vigilant, which was three point of my original post.

[Hamble]

It's a bit of a facile comment to say that if the economic and social conditions were right, something bad could happen in Germany. It is of course true and Germany is not the peace loving hippy liberal place that the preunification Federal Republic was. If these conditions occur, the scapegoats are far more likely to be the Turks, other muslims and the Poles than the Jews. But we must always be vigilant, which was three point of my original post.

The Turks and The Muslim's migrants and asylum seekers do not have homes money and investments for Germany to steal to fund a war.

Motive first.
Scapegoats second.

As I interpret it, the author is saying that Modern day Germany may have to return to 'authoritarianism'.
This would be a disaster for Germany's image as you say.

Again not the same root cause as Nazi Germany just a Western trend in response to Western challenges.

[Hamble]

Every connection but you got hold of the wrong end of the stick, Albion wasn't pointing a finger in the Jewish direction he asking if the rhetoric was recognised as being similar to what was being directed at the Jews some 80 years ago.

My answer is still the same.

Whilst I do not agree with the 'rhetoric' the complaint that 'Radical Islam commit's outrages is true whereas the complaints against Jewish citizens in Europe by The Third Reich were racist and propaganda.