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More houses or less people?
Do we need more houses,schools, hospitals etc or do we need less people wanting to live in our country?
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Less people! When do you leave?
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In 1906 Britain could survive for 6 weeks without any imported food.
In the 2nd World War it was 15 days.
Does anyone know the time factor now?
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More investment in infrastructure. Greater control over who lives here.
Both of which present and previous governments could have implemented.
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Less 'bonking' ....Some of the immigrants (illegal or otherwise) we receive, hail from lands where very large families are the norm.
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You could try living in a dump of a town where nobody wants to move to rather than a desirable place like Southport. Goodness knows there's enough local residents moaning about the place all the time, perhaps they should bugger off to Skem or somewhere.
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Originally Posted by susanb
In 1906 Britain could survive for 6 weeks without any imported food.
In the 2nd World War it was 15 days.
Does anyone know the time factor now?
With much of our pastures now being used for the export of meat, and huge amounts of farmland being managed by overseas conglomerate farmers for exporting sub standard produce - it would be difficult to estimate. If we were to encourage a return for local farmers to grow a more diverse food output as before, then we would have far more sustainability of food versus survival in the UK. It is hoped that once out of the EU there will be no more huge grants paid to these massive unnecessary companies, who left little for local farming and research, there will be more interest in local farming.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
You could try living in a dump of a town where nobody wants to move to rather than a desirable place like Southport. Goodness knows there's enough local residents moaning about the place all the time, perhaps they should bugger off to Skem or somewhere.
Have you been to spec savers lately? Since there appear to be a large number of people moaning about Southport - would you perhaps consider that you may have missed something? Beautiful golden sandy beaches, where loose sand used to blow across the beach in swathes and every weekend the beach was littered with numerous sand castles that children, and even adults, joyfully built. Now apart from about a metre wide corridor down towards the water - the beach is a quagmire of treacherous mud and slippery marram grass. A vibrant fairground, where many local people ran the side shows and there was much investment into crowd attracting rides - now a sad reflection of any such pleasure that attracts no-one. The huge, and I mean huge, number of shops that have closed down because people are no longer enthused to open a business where car parking charges have killed off the visitor numbers. A town where there is absolutely no attractions whatever! It is not the internet that has killed the town trade - it is the management of the town that has done that. Or perhaps you had not noticed?
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Originally Posted by crocodile35
Do we need more houses,schools, hospitals etc or do we need less people wanting to live in our country?
At some point, sooner than later preferably, the numbers of people in this country has to be controlled. The government have started on this by limiting child benefits and housing, and by implementing stricter trading and landlord rules where loopholes existed, but they need to go much further.
Not too distant in the future, there will be no more land available for building on in the UK - what would happen to all those who wanted to come to the UK then, if there had been no controls in place? Would they want to visit a country that is no longer green and pleasant? Would pontoons be built out in the sea to build houses on to house them? How would people move around - the roads are already choked to breaking point? There would be no land to build more roads. There would not be any land to enjoy leisure walks in, to play, to exercise, to enjoy. There would be insufficient hospitals, schools, clinics - since all the land is needed for housing. Is that the future of the UK?
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Originally Posted by said
Have you been to spec savers lately? Since there appear to be a large number of people moaning about Southport - would you perhaps consider that you may have missed something? Beautiful golden sandy beaches, where loose sand used to blow across the beach in swathes and every weekend the beach was littered with numerous sand castles that children, and even adults, joyfully built. Now apart from about a metre wide corridor down towards the water - the beach is a quagmire of treacherous mud and slippery marram grass. A vibrant fairground, where many local people ran the side shows and there was much investment into crowd attracting rides - now a sad reflection of any such pleasure that attracts no-one. The huge, and I mean huge, number of shops that have closed down because people are no longer enthused to open a business where car parking charges have killed off the visitor numbers. A town where there is absolutely no attractions whatever! It is not the internet that has killed the town trade - it is the management of the town that has done that. Or perhaps you had not noticed?
The beautiful Sandy Beach is still there it is just further out now, this is a natural process that has been occurring since the year dot. Just as Formby Point has been being eroded Southport has been being a deposition area, the Promenade was just that not too long ago but was left behind by Time & Tide.
The Fairground closed due to the lack of trade, peoples tastes and habits have changed over the years, the invention of the railway brought the Seaside within the reach of many but with the popularity of the aeroplane and motorcar peoples habits have changed. This along with the Internet has also done for our Town Centres. If the trade was there businesses would open.
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The fair is busy and will improve when Norman Wallis gets a longer lease on thr site.The town is packed every weekend which is remarkable if there are no attractions - i always find.something for me and my kids to do.
There worst aspect of the town is the relentlessly negative
portion of the local population pining for the 1950s and 1960s fed a diet of gloom by Qlocal and O T S.
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Originally Posted by said
Have you been to spec savers lately? Since there appear to be a large number of people moaning about Southport - would you perhaps consider that you may have missed something? Beautiful golden sandy beaches, where loose sand used to blow across the beach in swathes and every weekend the beach was littered with numerous sand castles that children, and even adults, joyfully built. Now apart from about a metre wide corridor down towards the water - the beach is a quagmire of treacherous mud and slippery marram grass. A vibrant fairground, where many local people ran the side shows and there was much investment into crowd attracting rides - now a sad reflection of any such pleasure that attracts no-one. The huge, and I mean huge, number of shops that have closed down because people are no longer enthused to open a business where car parking charges have killed off the visitor numbers. A town where there is absolutely no attractions whatever! It is not the internet that has killed the town trade - it is the management of the town that has done that. Or perhaps you had not noticed?
Give your head a wobble and reach for those antidepressants again.
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Originally Posted by Normal
Give your head a wobble and reach for those antidepressants again.
The views that I have expressed are not my own - but those of visitors and family who have been away from Southport for many years and have come back sad to see the town's demise.
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Well it can't be that bad if more housing is needed to accommodate everyone who wants to live in Southport. Perhaps those who don't like it here should leave and free up some space.
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