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    It appears from the various reports published that A Burke was with his partner for a period in excess of six years and they had a child together. His partner separated from him and he was seeing his child on a regular basis. Within months of the separation, his partner took up with C.Hayes, who herself had been in an off on relationship for a number of years. It is at this time A Burke was refused access to his child and the situation escalated. If A Burke had been of a violent character - would his partner have remained with him so long?
    Not all murderers abuse their partner with physical violence.

    Controlling behaviour harassment and stalking are non violent
    yet culminated in murder.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Not all murderers abuse their partner with physical violence.

    Controlling behaviour harassment and stalking are non violent
    yet culminated in murder.
    True! But that does not appear to be the case in this situation. Various facebook pages are very revealing - even if they are not meant to be.

    By the way - the number of flowers left outside the shop are a very touching gesture, don't you think?

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    True! But that does not appear to be the case in this situation. Various facebook pages are very revealing - even if they are not meant to be.

    By the way - the number of flowers left outside the shop are a very touching gesture, don't you think?
    I am trying not to be specific to the tragedy in Southport.
    In the UK on average 2 women a week die as a result of domestic violence.

    Do you have a photograph of the flowers please?

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    There is no justification for murder. Irrespective of what has or has not occurred in this case.


    The issue about his criminality will be dependent upon the disease of the mind at the time he committed the offence, not the morning of the offence or after, abut at the time of the act. If the courts conclude he had a disease of the mind, and thus incapable of forming intent then he will probably be guilty of manslaughter, but in those circumstances he can be detained indefinitely in a hospital for the criminally insane such as ashworth in maghull. Where as a conviction for murder will have a specific sentence thereafter he will be released. This is from memory of my law books 10 years ago so please don't shout at me if the law has developed further since

    I have just driven past chapel Street next to the train station and seen the hundreds of flowers. I felt sick inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    I am trying not to be specific to the tragedy in Southport.
    In the UK on average 2 women a week die as a result of domestic violence.

    Do you have a photograph of the flowers please?
    That figure is two a week too many! I did not realise that - how awful!
    No! I did not think of taking a photo of the flowers, but it would not have looked that good as it was dark when I saw them.

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