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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    I just hope none of you denying the existence of racism in the particular grooming rape and child abuse by Asian offenders acting in a group do not have daughters or granddaughters.

    How are you going to protect them against this kind of racism and abuse if you do not even acknowledge it exists?

    Asian grooming and child rapist gangs are still operating.
    The method has not gone away just because perpetrators have been arrested and imprisoned.
    This is a cutural problem based around a bloody religion, yes we must see and acknowledge this or it will simply grow like cancer, no-one is attempting to say that all child abusers are Asian or all Asians are child abusers, but it is equally clear that there is a serious problem within the Asian community.

    Our entire legal system from police through to court must hit offenders hard, where possible deportation should be automatic, with no human rights b******t, personally would have all paedophiles and child abusers taken out and shot like the parasites they are, but we all know that won't happen.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly Trott View Post
    What is your evidence that these attacks were racially motivated? Did the perpetrators do it because they were Pakistani YESor because they were men YES?
    Yes on both counts, how many of their victims where from their own community, answer NONE they were all WHITE vulnerable girls who they had absolutely no respect for and treated disgustingly and shared them amongst themselves for their own sexual perversions as they deemed them "worthless"
    So YES there is a clear racial motive to these actions, and if you're too blinkered to see or understand that, then I really don't understand your thought process.
    Last edited by Steed; 18/08/2017 at 09:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    This is a cutural problem based around a bloody religion, yes we must see and acknowledge this or it will simply grow like cancer, no-one is attempting to say that all child abusers are Asian or all Asians are child abusers, but it is equally clear that there is a serious problem within the Asian community.

    Our entire legal system from police through to court must hit offenders hard, where possible deportation should be automatic, with no human rights b******t, personally would have all paedophiles and child abusers taken out and shot like the parasites they are, but we all know that won't happen.
    I agree with your first paragraph.
    There is also a cultural/religious problem with child grooming and sex abuse in the non Asian community though making an exception for incest figures there is not a similar degree of racially targeted type of grooming and child sex abuse.

    The type of grooming concerned is here to stay.
    We have to protect the children targeted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    I just hope none of you denying the existence of racism in the particular grooming rape and child abuse by Asian offenders acting in a group do not have daughters or granddaughters.

    How are you going to protect them against this kind of racism and abuse if you do not even acknowledge it exists?

    Asian grooming and child rapist gangs are still operating.
    The method has not gone away just because perpetrators have been arrested and imprisoned.

    Grooming exists in all walks of life. How will you protect your daughters or granddaughters if you do not even acknowledge it exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    Grooming exists in all walks of life. How will you protect your daughters or granddaughters if you do not even acknowledge it exists?


    I am well informed about child abuse having worked with victims and the consequent dealings with perpetrators for many years.

    I did my upmost to talk to my children of the dangers of sexual grooming.
    Luckily my children were not targeted and did not come across any dubious approach they could not handle.

    Regarding Asian child sexual grooming gangs.
    They do not target Jewish girls however of course I explained the type of grooming to my daughter as the cycle often begins with at school with innocent peer groups.
    Girls socialising with similar age Asian boys after school were often introduced to older Asian adult males leading to grooming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    Grooming exists in all walks of life. How will you protect your daughters or granddaughters if you do not even acknowledge it exists?
    You cannot protect them if you are looking in the wrong direction, yes there may have been racial element in the recent hih profile cases but if you look at the figures in Pollys post 38 link below you will see that over 80% of the Male Sex Offenders locked up are WHITE.

    https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/fo...y-55023240.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    You cannot protect them if you are looking in the wrong direction, yes there may have been racial element in the recent hih profile cases but if you look at the figures in Pollys post 38 link below you will see that over 80% of the Male Sex Offenders locked up are WHITE.

    https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/fo...y-55023240.htm


    Statistics are more accurate taken as a whole.

    Asian men in the UK are a minority group compared to white men.
    There are more convicted Asian sex offenders per population in the UK of Asian men than per population of white men.

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    Not good MP material for being straight forward and honest. PC crap doesn't work that way unfortunately

    What she said is fact and a lot of girls were seriously let down by authorities, and I'm sure it still goes on.

    Only 2 of the Rochdale abusers are still behind bars and several fighting deportation on public funds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Statistics are more accurate taken as a whole.

    Asian men in the UK are a minority group compared to white men.
    There are more convicted Asian sex offenders per population in the UK of Asian men than per population of white men.
    That is because they haven't caught the Westminster paedophile ring yet.

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    One question, if a gang of white men in a Muslim Country were doing the same to their young girls do you think they would live to be jailed. Myself I very much doubt it but it shows how lenient and SH*T SCARED this country is of upsetting them as shown by the Rochdale lot being out of jail already. They and every other sex offender should rot in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    You cannot protect them if you are looking in the wrong direction, yes there may have been racial element in the recent hih profile cases but if you look at the figures in Pollys post 38 link below you will see that over 80% of the Male Sex Offenders locked up are WHITE.

    https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/fo...y-55023240.htm
    Exactly my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    Exactly my point.
    Those numbers mean nothing unless there is a breakdown of the UKs population by ethnicity from that year. Of course there is going to be more white people as a total ammount, but how do those numbers compare as a % of the total population for each ethnicity? Which groups are over and under represented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly Trott View Post
    That is because they haven't caught the Westminster paedophile ring yet.
    'The Westminster paedophile ring' is an historic child abuse allegation of which all investigations are investigated under different means than current and ongoing child abuse prevention and detection.

    The point of being able to speak out and say there is a problem from a definite area with a modus operandi clearly displaying a pattern is crucial in child protection only because prevention is morally the right thing to do.
    Whatever colour creed or religion of perpetrators the crime is still vile.

    Why defend a race of people just because they are ethnic?
    Does it make you feel morally on the high ground on par with those
    far righty's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    One question, if a gang of white men in a Muslim Country were doing the same to their young girls do you think they would live to be jailed. Myself I very much doubt it but it shows how lenient and SH*T SCARED this country is of upsetting them as shown by the Rochdale lot being out of jail already. They and every other sex offender should rot in prison.
    I just hope that Sefton is spared a gang grooming/rape of children crisis
    investigation.
    Having such an upsetting threat close to home puts a strain on protection services everyone pays for particularly victims.

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    Does anyone think this headline would ever have appeared in the Sun:

    Britain has a problem with men raping and exploiting girls.

    and meanwhile on page 3 .....

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