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  1. #16
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    Who said Councillors or the Council had anything to do with it?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    Who said Councillors or the Council had anything to do with it?
    The foresters would have applied,or have been granted permission from the council to go ahead with tree felling,if it is within the boundaries of a council ?
    The day that God created Akita's......He just sat back and smiled

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    Early in the 20th century there was a mill on Scarisbrick New Road for south-west Lancashire farmers. On the northern side of the road was a coach building company (Hill Brothers), who built and operated extensive workshops, until fire struck in 1901, causing £3,000 of damage. The business then became Metcalfe’s, followed by Cocker’s, then Kew Auto Electricals.

    In the place of the coachbuilders is a major DIY store and the mill site replaced by a superstore and an instant food outlet. The area is now the site of the notorious roundabout where the A590 enters Southport. The once odd-looking landscape of Kew is now planned out for motor cars and shopping, rather than a landscape of plants and flowers, pathways and promenades.

    Brewers Thorougoods, Vaughans, Ellis Ward (of Ormskirk), Allied and Peter Walker controlled the old Richmond Hotel until the Joseph Holt company took over and the Millennium brought a fresh look when the old boozer was demolished, rebuilt and refurbished again in 2007.

    By 2005 there was a new tarmac path from Town Lane, Kew, to Scarisbrick New Road, marking roughly the western boundary of the old Gardens.

    With the building of the two medical facilities and roadways realigned from the 1960s onwards, the boundaries became confused, and it is now difficult to tell what is old and what is not.

    Unfortunately there are no signs of half-buried balustrades or toppled urns too heavy to move, no overgrown pathways, pavilion rubble or broken statues buried in the woods - nothing of the hills or flowerbeds survive of the Gardens.

    The lake behind Queenscourt Hospice and the small ‘Kew Woods’ area are the only surviving portions of the once vast area to survive. The small portion of the once huge lake (still there in the 1960s) is accessible from the district hospital grounds, from the main entrance heading towards the hospice.

    Six acres of Kew Woods was all that remained, accommodating 302 trees, 134 of which were in an advanced state of decay. The gardens had become a dormant, untidy place that nobody cared about. Then, in June 1972 the council, unsurprisingly, announced that the park would be turned into a housing estate, by order of the Environment Secretary. The landowners built 24 individually designed houses and bungalows with garages and landscaped the estate to retain its woodland setting - but it was the end of an era!

    The lake, once one of the best-stocked fish ponds in the region, was drained and filled in with material from the abandoned railway embankment at Kew.

    The outlines of parts of the former gardens were visible from aerial views especially, covered with vegetation, at a time when the Kew estate was growing inland of Town Lane, with Kew Primary School (now Kew Woods School) at its centre. The gardens were remembered by KGV pupils as it was part of their cross country circuit - although some would hide there then rejoin others as they made their way back to school.

    For years remnants of ‘Kew Gardens’ survived naturally, becoming dense and some of the landscaping survived behind the houses and the patch of dense woodland carry on in the form of Kew Woods.

    Most of the grounds disappeared some 40 or 50 years ago, with the building of Queenscourt Hospice and new district hospital, but enough survived in the 1960s to be an unofficial playground for King George V School pupils.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Shocked to drive down Town Lane this week and see a team of foresters has clear-felled the whole woods! Those mature trees in front of the Hospice were at least 100yrs old and all that remained of the original Victorian-era Kew Gardens.
    Why the I thought you made a living out of people burning wood, you can't have it all ways. Or didn't you realise wood grows on trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Early in the 20th century there was a mill on Scarisbrick New Road for south-west Lancashire farmers. On the northern side of the road was a coach building company (Hill Brothers), who built and operated extensive workshops, until fire struck in 1901, causing £3,000 of damage. The business then became Metcalfe’s, followed by Cocker’s, then Kew Auto Electricals.

    In the place of the coachbuilders is a major DIY store and the mill site replaced by a superstore and an instant food outlet. The area is now the site of the notorious roundabout where the A590 enters Southport. The once odd-looking landscape of Kew is now planned out for motor cars and shopping, rather than a landscape of plants and flowers, pathways and promenades.

    Brewers Thorougoods, Vaughans, Ellis Ward (of Ormskirk), Allied and Peter Walker controlled the old Richmond Hotel until the Joseph Holt company took over and the Millennium brought a fresh look when the old boozer was demolished, rebuilt and refurbished again in 2007.

    By 2005 there was a new tarmac path from Town Lane, Kew, to Scarisbrick New Road, marking roughly the western boundary of the old Gardens.

    With the building of the two medical facilities and roadways realigned from the 1960s onwards, the boundaries became confused, and it is now difficult to tell what is old and what is not.

    Unfortunately there are no signs of half-buried balustrades or toppled urns too heavy to move, no overgrown pathways, pavilion rubble or broken statues buried in the woods - nothing of the hills or flowerbeds survive of the Gardens.

    The lake behind Queenscourt Hospice and the small ‘Kew Woods’ area are the only surviving portions of the once vast area to survive. The small portion of the once huge lake (still there in the 1960s) is accessible from the district hospital grounds, from the main entrance heading towards the hospice.

    Six acres of Kew Woods was all that remained, accommodating 302 trees, 134 of which were in an advanced state of decay. The gardens had become a dormant, untidy place that nobody cared about. Then, in June 1972 the council, unsurprisingly, announced that the park would be turned into a housing estate, by order of the Environment Secretary. The landowners built 24 individually designed houses and bungalows with garages and landscaped the estate to retain its woodland setting - but it was the end of an era!

    The lake, once one of the best-stocked fish ponds in the region, was drained and filled in with material from the abandoned railway embankment at Kew.

    The outlines of parts of the former gardens were visible from aerial views especially, covered with vegetation, at a time when the Kew estate was growing inland of Town Lane, with Kew Primary School (now Kew Woods School) at its centre. The gardens were remembered by KGV pupils as it was part of their cross country circuit - although some would hide there then rejoin others as they made their way back to school.

    For years remnants of ‘Kew Gardens’ survived naturally, becoming dense and some of the landscaping survived behind the houses and the patch of dense woodland carry on in the form of Kew Woods.

    Most of the grounds disappeared some 40 or 50 years ago, with the building of Queenscourt Hospice and new district hospital, but enough survived in the 1960s to be an unofficial playground for King George V School pupils.


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    That was really something all those years ago. Such places as these have gone the same way as many historical buildings - gone forever and will never be again. Imagine if we had such an attraction now - people would be travelling from all over the UK. Unfortunately, it looks like the future holds for grotesque concrete monster buildings, standing on concrete slabs with the odd flower pot of flowers probably. Why are there no Council people employed who have any imagination or understanding of environments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    That was really something all those years ago. Such places as these have gone the same way as many historical buildings - gone forever and will never be again. Imagine if we had such an attraction now - people would be travelling from all over the UK. Unfortunately, it looks like the future holds for grotesque concrete monster buildings, standing on concrete slabs with the odd flower pot of flowers probably. Why are there no Council people employed who have any imagination or understanding of environments?
    It is very sad.
    Even if one understands the reason(lack of tourism) the history should be preserved.
    In GM there are historical photograph markers placed for one to view
    how a 'beauty spot' used to look with a written history in many areas.

    I would like to see this in Southport.

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    Having been to the SDGH this morning I made a point of looking for the decimated woodland, as usual the original poster has been more than dramatic. Even the other site has mentioned a 100 trees been felled.

    It is obvious to anyone with one iota of common sense that the trees have been felled for either erection of a Building or Disease. The area is being fenced off which points towards a building and as it is on the Hospital grounds I would take a wild guess that the building is required by the hospital.

    As for the number of trees I couldn't count whilst I drove past I had enough to do, but if the number is more than 10 I would be flabbergasted.

    REST EASY EVERYONE Kew woods hasn't been felled.

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    One of the lads who were cutting the trees down told me it was going to be a car park for the Hospice.
    No one cares...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beldray View Post
    One of the lads who were cutting the trees down told me it was going to be a car park for the Hospice.
    Duh....'They paved paradise and put up a parking lot' ....Joni Mitchell.

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