Jon Venables

[gsgsgs]

Hopefully this piece of detritus will be locked away for life this time, the piece of sh*t has been given a chance that he didn't deserve, so no more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-42095074

[bambi275]

He has been given several chances. He has already had a recall to prison and he has told people who he is despite the amount of money it cost to give him a new identity. He has no respect for the chances he has been given. He should be locked up for life. He obviously has no hope of ever being rehabilitated

[Ceam]

He has been given several chances. He has already had a recall to prison and he has told people who he is despite the amount of money it cost to give him a new identity. He has no respect for the chances he has been given. He should be locked up for life. He obviously has no hope of ever being rehabilitated

A good argument to have the death sentence reintroduced, preferably before he kills another innocent child.

[gazaprop]

A good argument to have the death sentence reintroduced, preferably before he kills another innocent child.

Problem with that is you'd never get it past the hand wringing liberals deafening you with renditions of Kumbaya whilst holding a candle lit vigil.

[Parveen]

A good argument to have the death sentence reintroduced, preferably before he kills another innocent child.

How would that have worked, considering the culprits were aged 10 at the time?

Just curious.

[bambi275]

I'm not in favour of the death penalty at all. One life wrongly convicted is one too many. But I do believe some people cannot live in a civilised society. They should be locked up for life as Brady was.

[grassroots]

I'm not in favour of the death penalty at all. One life wrongly convicted is one too many. But I do believe some people cannot live in a civilised society. They should be locked up for life as Brady was.

Djust let this waste of space and oxygen .ROT.

[Albion102]

A good argument to have the death sentence reintroduced, preferably before he kills another innocent child.

The logical conclusion of that is that you would have supported hanging Thompson and Venables at the age of 10.

Interesting that Thompson at 10 was regarded as the evil one and apparently gained qualifications and has led a quiet crimeless life.

[gazaprop]

The logical conclusion of that is that you would have supported hanging Thompson and Venables at the age of 10.

Interesting that Thompson at 10 was regarded as the evil one and apparently gained qualifications and has led a quiet crimeless life.

I'm sure little Jamie Bulger's family will draw great comfort from Thompson's alleged re-habilitation.
Modern society leaves me speechless sometimes - a piece of **** such as Thompson tortures - yes - tortures to death an innocent toddler and his punishment consists of some years away from home, being educated to a high standard and given a new start in life.
We even had the hand wringers bleating about how awfully oppressive the trial procedure must have been for two 10 year old boys with all those wigs and robes.
The pair of them should have been left in gaol until they could be cremated - without ceremony or music.

[said]

The logical conclusion of that is that you would have supported hanging Thompson and Venables at the age of 10.

Interesting that Thompson at 10 was regarded as the evil one and apparently gained qualifications and has led a quiet crimeless life.

Neither of these two unmentionables have become normal members of society. When, at such a young age they exhibit definite traits of psychopathic behaviour, it is obvious that they will never be able to be normal. In this, they are no different to Brady and Hindley. They should have been locked away for a much, much longer sentence. The fact that these criminals are allowed to be given life long anonymity is wrong for by doing so these people are allowed to forget the wrongs they have committed while the victims families can never be allowed to forget. Also because the law was so soft on the sentencing - and the fact that they have been given anonymity - has acted to increase the anger of the public. Mary Bell is now sixty years old and requested anonymity for her daughter and grandchild - why, when she stopped two young boys from even growing up and having any life at all?

[Albion102]

Neither of these two unmentionables have become normal members of society. When, at such a young age they exhibit definite traits of psychopathic behaviour, it is obvious that they will never be able to be normal. In this, they are no different to Brady and Hindley. They should have been locked away for a much, much longer sentence. The fact that these criminals are allowed to be given life long anonymity is wrong for by doing so these people are allowed to forget the wrongs they have committed while the victims families can never be allowed to forget. Also because the law was so soft on the sentencing - and the fact that they have been given anonymity - has acted to increase the anger of the public. Mary Bell is now sixty years old and requested anonymity for her daughter and grandchild - why, when she stopped two young boys from even growing up and having any life at all?

FAOD Both crimes I refer to are heinous crimes for which there should be appropriate punishment and without release unless it is in the public interest to do so.

I'm not a psychiatrist and nor are you, and the only things that either us really know about the crime, the legal process and their sentences and subsequent supervision is what we have gleaned from (mostly) tabloid newspapers.

Nobody is born evil, they are made that way by their environment. A ten year old child who has been given no concept of right or wrong and who society has failed because it didn't step in to their terrible homelife surely has the right to expect society to try to undo the wrongs.

By saying that the 10 year oid Thompson and Venables should be treated in the same way as the 30 something Hindley/Brady.

To drag up a cause celebre of the right, I would guess that you would describe a 30 year old woman who consented to sleep with dozens of Pakistani men in Rotherham after a few wines to be a slut and a lush. By your logic, the same should have applied to a (physically) sexually mature 14 year old.

Children and adults are different things.

[Knot wright]

they were well known even before they did it ......

[shippy]

FAOD Both crimes I refer to are heinous crimes for which there should be appropriate punishment and without release unless it is in the public interest to do so.

I'm not a psychiatrist and nor are you, and the only things that either us really know about the crime, the legal process and their sentences and subsequent supervision is what we have gleaned from (mostly) tabloid newspapers.

Nobody is born evil, they are made that way by their environment. A ten year old child who has been given no concept of right or wrong and who society has failed because it didn't step in to their terrible homelife surely has the right to expect society to try to undo the wrongs.

By saying that the 10 year oid Thompson and Venables should be treated in the same way as the 30 something Hindley/Brady.

To drag up a cause celebre of the right, I would guess that you would describe a 30 year old woman who consented to sleep with dozens of Pakistani men in Rotherham after a few wines to be a slut and a lush. By your logic, the same should have applied to a (physically) sexually mature 14 year old.

Children and adults are different things.

Things could have been different that's for sure...
But I would say that 'the appointed psychologists and psychiatrists ' who were supposedly given the job of putting Jon venables on the path of sanity have seriously failed in that respect...
Fortunately he was found only with pornographic material and not attacked another small child...

There are many children unfortunately living in a similar environment as Jon venables was brought up in, but it doesn't turn them into sadistic kiddie murderers ...

Thompson may have really turned his life around...maybe he was an accomplice to the murder who was scared of venables...I haven't read the court proceedings so I can only assume...

The facts are, that Jon venables is a persistent offender and doesn't seem to have any regrets for what transpired as a 10 year old...
Thompson on the other hand seems to have turned his life around...I'm sure he is being watched by the authorities...

My thoughts are with the toddlers mother, who has to re-live the horror time after time...poor poor woman.

[shippy]

they were well known even before they did it ......

Well known for what ?

I can only assume venables was a bully ?

[said]

FAOD Both crimes I refer to are heinous crimes for which there should be appropriate punishment and without release unless it is in the public interest to do so.

I'm not a psychiatrist and nor are you, and the only things that either us really know about the crime, the legal process and their sentences and subsequent supervision is what we have gleaned from (mostly) tabloid newspapers.

Nobody is born evil, they are made that way by their environment. A ten year old child who has been given no concept of right or wrong and who society has failed because it didn't step in to their terrible homelife surely has the right to expect society to try to undo the wrongs.

By saying that the 10 year oid Thompson and Venables should be treated in the same way as the 30 something Hindley/Brady.

To drag up a cause celebre of the right, I would guess that you would describe a 30 year old woman who consented to sleep with dozens of Pakistani men in Rotherham after a few wines to be a slut and a lush. By your logic, the same should have applied to a (physically) sexually mature 14 year old.

Children and adults are different things.

No I disagree with you. Psychopaths are born that way. This has nothing to do with their upbringing. You may be familiar with the psychology of criminal behaviour, there are many examples of such criminals exhibiting their character while as children. Often they will give reasons such as being ill treated by parents etc., but this has been discredited since several young people have been ill treated by parents but only rarely do these turn to psychopathic behaviour. What happened in the sad case of James, I knew from information given to me by a member of the Police force who was traumatised by the event - not from what was published. At that time, factual information was so horrendous it was withheld. Neither of the two criminals have become normal members of society although it now appears that Venables was the dominant partner.