J Holey Lord Street

[Hamble]

I have been greatly speculating.

Knowing the cloak was hand made by a seamstress and almost certainly post WW1 due to the short length and military style collar.

The style is similar to a 'Tommy' coat.
The scarlet red is an unusual colour.

Was the cloak made to wear in support or remembrance of the WW1 dead post 1918?

I would love to hear more details of your most intriguing grandmother J of A?

[Sue Ellen]

Slightly off topic I know, but these posts about cloaks has put me in mind of the nursing cloak I was given as a student nurse at Walton hospital in 1973, it was navy blue with a scarlet lining. Kept you warm in that ex workhouse building when on night duty.

[joan ofarc]

Well curiouser and curiouser. I have spent the afternoon trawling through the street guides. Boy, did those shop/house numbers change! It must have been a nightmare trying to deliver the post.
The earliest I can find a J. Holey on Lord Street is 1894 at 301. In 1893 the Bold was at 325 so that makes 301 south of the Bold. In 1899 Holey's was at 307, RegentHouse. By 1903 they were gone and weren't at their addresses in Mornington Road and Alexandra Road. I could do with a large scale map.
That makes the design of the cloak circa 1894 to 1903 unless they moved off Lord Street. I don't think they did but it will require a longer stint on the books. I am confused now as to the design - not WW1, or 1920s although the elements are there. Personally I felt it was 1970s as I had a similar cape albeit shorter.

[condemnation]

I have a booklet published by the visiter in 1909 one of the pics is boothroyd sons & Rimmer it says The leading Drapery and Furnishings Establishment in southport in 1850 and at present day 293-309 lord st telephone 40

[joan ofarc]

I have a booklet published by the visiter in 1909 one of the pics is boothroyd sons & Rimmer it says The leading Drapery and Furnishings Establishment in southport in 1850 and at present day 293-309 lord st telephone 40

Thanks for that , condemnation.
Present day 293-309 was 151 - 157 in 1876. The way the shops were divided, knocked down, rebuilt as smaller meant that the number of establishments on the west side of Lord Street went from 182 in 1869 to 671 and then back to 663 by 1914. I am assuming that the actual Boothroyd building stayed the same, just the numbers changed. The Bold was always in the same place too but was at 257 Lord St, then 325 then 587. I think it's 583 today. Confusing innit?

[condemnation]

Having a look i have quite a few of the shops on lords st. This one says Lord st shops. These shops are shown as they existed in 1850. Begining on the left we see Mr F.B Garsides shop chemist and druggist . Miss Deans confectionery . is next and then john sawyers barber, who was the only postman in the town at the time . He was also a well known canary fancier.

in 1844 the southport Visiter comenced publication in this row ans was conducted there for some years , until removed to more roomy premises opposite the town hall