International Driving permit and passports

[*concerned*]

So, its suggested in the news we 'may' need an International Driving Permit, also its possible that our passport needs to be valid for longer than 6 months.

Not a big deal really, wonder how the other 27 EU countries will feel about this - as they too will need an International Driving Permit to drive in the UK, plus a passport valid for longer than 6 months :-)

Does the EU negotiating team realise that what ever impositions they apply to the UK, will also apply to the remaining 27 countries who want to trade or visit the UK ?

[The PNP]

A) So, its suggested in the news we 'may' need an International Driving Permit, also its possible that our passport needs to be valid for longer than 6 months.

Not a big deal really, wonder how the other 27 EU countries will feel about this - as they too will need an International Driving Permit to drive in the UK, plus a passport valid for longer than 6 months :-)

B) Does the EU negotiating team realise that what ever impositions they apply to the UK, will also apply to the remaining 27 countries who want to trade or visit the UK ?

A) If visitors to the UK are required to have a full passport and International Driving License, that will unfortunately cut down the number of people visiting the UK from the EU....One aspect of 'project fear' that would become reality.

B) Not the EU's fault - it was us here who voted to leave.

[*concerned*]

A) If visitors to the UK are required to have a full passport and International Driving License, that will unfortunately cut down the number of people visiting the UK from the EU....One aspect of 'project fear' that would become reality.

Conversely, it could also cut down the number of visitors from the UK to the EU

Applying the principles/logic of Newtons 3rd law here :-)

[Parveen]

So, its suggested in the news we 'may' need an International Driving Permit, also its possible that our passport needs to be valid for longer than 6 months.

<b>Not a big deal really, wonder how the other 27 EU countries will feel about this - as they too will need an International Driving Permit to drive in the UK, plus a passport valid for longer than 6 months :-)</b>

Does the EU negotiating team realise that what ever impositions they apply to the UK, will also apply to the remaining 27 countries who want to trade or visit the UK ?

From gov.uk ...

EU driving licence holders, visiting or living in the UK after exit

After exit day on 29 March 2019, arrangements for EU licence holders who are visiting or living in the UK would not change.

[dav]

Just more propaganda from Project Fear version 967...

(Remember the good old days when news was actually news?)

[Parveen]

Just more propaganda from Project Fear version 967...

(Remember the good old days when news was actually news?)

Project Fear? Hardly, just practicality.

The EU27 countries are at liberty to determine their own stance regarding the recognition of «foreign» licences after brexit.

For example, many years ago, an IDL was needed for Italy, but not France, so presumably that kind of arrangement will be resurrected.

[The PNP]

Conversely, it could also cut down the number of visitors from the UK to the EU

Applying the principles/logic of Newtons 3rd law here :-)

That's fair comment.

But it's the loss of visitors to the UK that will impact us personally.
As less visitors = less spending = less tax receipts = less money in UK kitty to pay for NHS/roads/benefits/pensions/public sector pay rises, etc.

[*concerned*]

So, as I now understand it :

An EU licence (from the 27 EU countries) is VALID in the UK, a concession by the UK


A UK licence will NOT be valid in most of the 27 EU countries, unless an International Permit is obtained, an imposition from the EU

[The PNP]

Just more propaganda from Project Fear version 967...

Not to mention a projected further big fall in value of the £pound, large rise in mortgage rates and our house-prices crashing through the floor.....

[Parveen]

So, as I now understand it :

An EU licence (from the 27 EU countries) is VALID in the UK, a concession by the UK


A UK licence will NOT be valid in most of the 27 EU countries, unless an International Permit is obtained, an imposition from the EU

Not so.

The notice says an IDP «may» be required in an EU country, no agreement has been reached.

Currently as a foreign visitor you can drive in the UK with your existing driving licence for 12 months and an IDP is not required, so the rule isn’t a concession, it’s the current situation.

Within the EU, rules about the need for an IDP for non-EU drivers vary from country to country (for example France, like the UK, has no requirement for an IDP for non-EU). After brexit, drivers from the UK will be treated as non-EU and may or may not need an IDP depending on whereabouts in the EU they drive.

So it’s nothing to do with « concessions » or « impositions ».

[Ceam]

Not to mention a projected further big fall in value of the £pound, large rise in mortgage rates and our house-prices crashing through the floor.....

Let's not get carried away, That is a worst case scenario.

All this what applies to us applies to them too doesn't hold much water either. We loose trade etc to 27 countries, They loose it to one.


I just think it's a right royal f&%^ up. The whole thing is crazy, May is going to be the scapegoat. The only thing she's guilty of is being stupid enough to take on this ***** storm after it happened.

The E.U. is not going to make it good for us. They can't, if they do the whole system will claps. We are going to be shafted good and hard.

[Parveen]

Just more propaganda from Project Fear version 967...

(Remember the good old days when news was actually news?)

In fact you do have a bit of a point.

These ‘worst-case’ technical notices are worded in such a way as to paint the EU as the nasty foreigner and the UK as the unfortunate victim - whether this is deliberate or comes naturally to these people I don’t know.

Whatever the case, if and when a no-deal merde-storm comes about, then ‘the EU’ will already be painted as the baddy and Johnson and his goons will be ideally placed to take over the controls of ‘Titanic Britain’, shouting F-you to Johnny Dago while the vessel slowly sinks in the mid-Atlantic.

[*concerned*]

Not so.

The notice says an IDP «may» be required in an EU country, no agreement has been reached.

Currently as a foreign visitor you can drive in the UK with your existing driving licence for 12 months and an IDP is not required, so the rule isn’t a concession, it’s the current situation.

Within the EU, rules about the need for an IDP for non-EU drivers vary from country to country (for example France, like the UK, has no requirement for an IDP for non-EU). After brexit, drivers from the UK will be treated as non-EU and may or may not need an IDP depending on whereabouts in the EU they drive.

So it’s nothing to do with « concessions » or « impositions ».

I disagree!


No change in the UK situation, so in fact a concession to the EU's imposition of 'some' of the 27 requiring an IDP - when they didn't before.

All they had to agree was that a UK driving licence was as valid as an EU one in the 27 with an IDP as required for an extended period

[Parveen]

I disagree!


No change in the UK situation, so in fact a concession to the EU's imposition of 'some' of the 27 requiring an IDP - when they didn't before.

All they had to agree was that a UK driving licence was as valid as an EU one in the 27 with an IDP as required for an extended period

After brexit, the UK will be a non-EU country and consequently previous benefits of being a member of the EU will be lost unless otherwise negotiated - I thought that was what you lot wanted? Furthermore, as a non-EU country you revert back to the rules pre-EU, hence IDP.

The EU stance throughout this debacle has been pretty consistent. The UK will be treated as any other non-EU country after brexit - therefore an IDP could be required for those EU countries that currently require it for non-EU drivers.

I doubt whether the question of the status of driving licence validity has even been discussed and it is hardly the most pressing matter in the kaleidoscope of imbecilities now making itself evident.

[gazaprop]

What I'd like to see is the younger mob, who basically couldn't be a7$ed getting out of bed or from behind their games controller, to vote getting a bit more stick for the leave result.
After all they're the ones bemoaning how the pensioners have stolen their future from them - it's your own bloody fault you bunch of lazy slackers!

Added to that - how stupid was Cameron to leave the nations future in the hands of a bunch of spotty hormonal oiks!