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There is hygiene and there is health.
After being a guest in a home with a dog I have to use an asthma inhaler.
Whatever excitement visitors bring to a small dog in a confined
space sets off a reaction similar to hay fever.
As much as I find dogs appealing it is hard to eat at a table with a dog
underneath particularly old dogs suffering from the lack of social niceties.
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Originally Posted by said
A survey carried out by Rosewood Pet Foods, states that: etc . . .
Good heavens man you are obsessed with hygiene!
Did you never eat mud pies as a boy?
Did you never cut turf and cook your dinner outdoors and eat it with your fingers never having washed your hands since your mum made you have a wash first thing?
Did you never pick things up off the shore line then eat your buttlies while continuing to explore?
Did you never feed horses in a field and have them wipe their lips over your hands then have your butties later?
Did you never play in a field where horses grazed and dogs ran around? We did, and we picked ‘sour granny’ and rhubarb spilling over from someone’s garden, into the field, to eat - goodness knows what had wee-ed on it!
Did you never have a dog and do all the things you mention and more besides as a lad?
All that was a great way to build up immunity. We were never ill as kids apart from the usual measles, chicken pox etc. but we weren’t wrapped in sterile cotton wool either thank goodness.
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Another vote for dogs rather than kids.
Take care out there
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Originally Posted by toothache
A survey carried out by Rosewood Pet Foods, states that: etc . . .
Good heavens man you are obsessed with hygiene!
Did you never eat mud pies as a boy?
Did you never cut turf and cook your dinner outdoors and eat it with your fingers never having washed your hands since your mum made you have a wash first thing?
Did you never pick things up off the shore line then eat your buttlies while continuing to explore?
Did you never feed horses in a field and have them wipe their lips over your hands then have your butties later?
Did you never play in a field where horses grazed and dogs ran around? We did, and we picked ‘sour granny’ and rhubarb spilling over from someone’s garden, into the field, to eat - goodness knows what had wee-ed on it!
Did you never have a dog and do all the things you mention and more besides as a lad?
All that was a great way to build up immunity. We were never ill as kids apart from the usual measles, chicken pox etc. but we weren’t wrapped in sterile cotton wool either thank goodness.
I have regularly been camping and eaten out of pans that have been washed in river water. I have drunk purified river water regularly. On the farm I picked and ate the mushrooms/strawberries growing wild. We did have several dogs while living on the farm - none were ever allowed in the house - just as the goats, cows, sheep and chickens were never allowed in the house.
It is one thing to eat fruit and produce without washing it and ingest beneficial germs - but a completely different one to invite disease carrying germs to mix with the food you eat.
Why else would humans need to wash their hands after using the toilet? Animals do not have to, nor do they wash their tongues or noses.
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Originally Posted by said
Why else would humans need to wash their hands after using the toilet?
Animals do not have to, nor do they wash their tongues or noses.
Well I don’t know about you but I use toilet paper, which is in my hand, down below when using the loo. Dogs don’t do this. They just let the poo drop and move on.
Certain parts of the body are self cleansing because of the mucous membranes. Noses are one example, but unlike us, I have never known a dog with bogeys! Tongues are another example being washed with saliva constantly, which is swallowed. The concentrated hydrochloric acid in the gastric juice sorts out most germs it encounters. My dog does not lick me because I don’t like the slimy texture! She has never attempted to anyway. She is very laid back Greyhound.
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Originally Posted by toothache
Well I don’t know about you but I use toilet paper, which is in my hand, down below when using the loo. Dogs don’t do this. They just let the poo drop and move on.
Certain parts of the body are self cleansing because of the mucous membranes. Noses are one example, but unlike us, I have never known a dog with bogeys! Tongues are another example being washed with saliva constantly, which is swallowed. The concentrated hydrochloric acid in the gastric juice sorts out most germs it encounters. My dog does not lick me because I don’t like the slimy texture! She has never attempted to anyway. She is very laid back Greyhound.
Ok! So allowing dogs into Hotels and Restaurants is only right considering that dogs/pets are equal to humans with regard to cleanliness and hygiene? Is that what you are saying?
So if dogs/pets are equal to humans - then logically humans must be equal to dogs/pets by the same argument.
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Originally Posted by said
Recently called into a Hotel to book a room, on the strength of its attractive advertising. It was not until I was at the desk, I noticed a couple of people with dogs in the Hotel lobby.
If you'd booked ahead and they hadn't told you it was 'dog friendly', I could see your point. As it was, you just 'called in'. Deciding against staying was your choice.
I've seen lots of attractive advertising, then found an establishment wasn't exactly as stated in the brochure. My choice to spend my money elsewhere.
Could have been worse. You could have to spend the night at Pontins.
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Originally Posted by toothache
Good heavens man you are obsessed with hygiene!
Did you never eat mud pies as a boy?
Did you never cut turf and cook your dinner outdoors and eat it with your fingers never having washed your hands since your mum made you have a wash first thing?
Did you never pick things up off the shore line then eat your buttlies while continuing to explore?
Did you never feed horses in a field and have them wipe their lips over your hands then have your butties later?
Did you never play in a field where horses grazed and dogs ran around? We did, and we picked ‘sour granny’ and rhubarb spilling over from someone’s garden, into the field, to eat - goodness knows what had wee-ed on it!
Did you never have a dog and do all the things you mention and more besides as a lad?
All that was a great way to build up immunity. We were never ill as kids apart from the usual measles, chicken pox etc. but we weren’t wrapped in sterile cotton wool either thank goodness.
Most of us did these things and survived, BUT not everyone likes dogs at all irrespective of hygiene and they should surely have the choice to enjoy a meal, holiday or just an overnight stay without dogs on the agenda.
Personally have no problems with dogs as such, wish I could say the same about all dog owners, away on holiday, booked a meal at a recommended pub/restaurant, what we didn't know was this pub had 1 dining room classed as dog friendly, we were shown to a table in this room, sat behind our son-in-law was a male with a fairly large dog sat on his knee sharing his meal, what was also obvious either the dog or owner was in dire need of a wash, we walked out.
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Originally Posted by Duke Nukem
Another vote for dogs rather than kids.
^^^ yes.
Devil in disguise,
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Originally Posted by Duke Nukem
Another vote for dogs rather than kids.
Children allowed to run wild in pubs/restaurants is not good, but bottom line would never under any circumstances put the needs of a dog before those of a child.
I have been in pub/restaurants which have a playroom inside, yet you still see adults tutting about the children in the place, what do they expect?
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Originally Posted by dav
I prefer people friendly hotels. A "dog friendly" hotel is one with an outside kennel - and not within barking distance of the hotel.
Gets my vote!
Orwell said "If there is hope, it lies in the proles." Whilst champagne socialists see diversity idealised at university, the common folk experience it first hand in their neighbour hoods.
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That is a very good point! I had forgotten that there are places that are even worse than the Hotel we arrived at. Pontin's do allow pets in anyway -although one of the comments made about that camp reads "Pontin's is not a fit place for an animal, its far too dirty and smelly!"
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I notice that one particular restaurant in Eastbank Street are desperate to attract clients since they advertise their premises as 'Dog Friendly' - good for them - but since there are far more non dog owners than dog owners they are not doing themselves a favour! I will avoid that place!
If Hotels and Restaurants are now keen to have animals and pets on their premises - why are they so bothered about rat infestations? Rats can also be pets?
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I would sooner have a cat. I can't stand dogs they bite and **** everywhere, disgusting animals. To many people are owning one now. I have to agree dog friendly hotels/restaurant etc are a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by titanic
I would sooner have a cat. I can't stand dogs they bite and **** everywhere, disgusting animals. To many people are owning one now. I have to agree dog friendly hotels/restaurant etc are a bad idea.
Dogs **** everywhere due to lack of training or irresponsible owners, cats also **** everywhere for the same reasons, cats don't **** in their own backyard, there (as far as I'm aware) is no law about cat owners picking up after them, when gardening I have to look carefully as my garden seems to be the cat loo of the area.
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