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Discrimination
Young couples who decide personally to have children receive many rewards. A young mother receives a one off payment for every child she has, she has a lengthy time off work with a sliding scale of pay, the father receives paternity leave on pay, none of which affects their normal holidays from work.
An employer has to find someone who is willing to act as cover for both the Mother and the Father, and is further inconvenienced by having to organise staff to bring the returning staff up to date.
But what of the young couples who decide to remain in their careers, who do not choose to have children, but continue working for an employer providing continuity of work? They are effectively penalised! Is that equality?
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Fair.
The couple without children get more sleep and leaving the house is a doddle.
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
Fair.
The couple without children get more sleep and leaving the house is a doddle.
THAT is not the point! True - but nothing to do with employment rights!
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I think you really need to take a good look at yourself.
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There's very little evidence for societal or economic benefit from
paid parental leave. Few Americans have an entitlement to maternity leave beyond medical recovery from childbirth and typical annual leave entitlements are around 2 weeks per year.
There may be an argument around attachment theory and that we should be encouraging parents to spend as much time with their babies in year 1, so the kids turn out better. I don't think that the science is "hard" enough to turn this into a longitudinal study to see whether "attached" kids are more economically productive. I suspect it would prove that it makes no difference nowadays because mothers/fathers spend the whole of their maternity/paternity leave staring at their phones rather than interacting with their kids !
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Originally Posted by
pedoja
I think you really need to take a good look at yourself.
^ this.
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Originally Posted by
pedoja
I think you really need to take a good look at yourself.
Ooer! Your post is rather vague. Are you posting as an Administrator - have I said something wrong? In which case I sincerely apologise - or are you saying that I should reflect on my own views?
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Applying the law of Unintended Consequences to the concept of equal opportunity on parental leave has allowed men to dispel the myth - perpetuated by women, about what devilishley hard work it is raising children.
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Originally Posted by
Albion102
There's very little evidence for societal or economic benefit from
paid parental leave. Few Americans have an entitlement to maternity leave beyond medical recovery from childbirth and typical annual leave entitlements are around 2 weeks per year.
There may be an argument around attachment theory and that we should be encouraging parents to spend as much time with their babies in year 1, so the kids turn out better. I don't think that the science is "hard" enough to turn this into a longitudinal study to see whether "attached" kids are more economically productive. I suspect it would prove that it makes no difference nowadays because mothers/fathers spend the whole of their maternity/paternity leave staring at their phones rather than interacting with their kids !
Good point, I have seen many young mothers with their children while concentrating more on their mobile phones than the children. Surely it is the child's continuance of family support that is of importance. I do agree that at least one parent should attempt to be with the child for the whole of pre-school. I understand that this may not be an option for professional people , but most have managed to support their children successfully regardless.
Surely the issue is far more detrimental to smaller businesses creating more problems to struggle with, as opposed to huge companies who are able to absorb and cover for staff absences?
The world's population is increasing at an alarming rate - is it wise to encourage this?
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Originally Posted by
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The world's population is increasing at an alarming rate - is it wise to encourage this?
Wish your mum had asked that question.
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Originally Posted by
said
Good point, I have seen many young mothers with their children while concentrating more on their mobile phones than the children. Surely it is the child's continuance of family support that is of importance. I do agree that at least one parent should attempt to be with the child for the whole of pre-school. I understand that this may not be an option for professional people , but most have managed to support their children successfully regardless.
Surely the issue is far more detrimental to smaller businesses creating more problems to struggle with, as opposed to huge companies who are able to absorb and cover for staff absences?
The world's population is increasing at an alarming rate - is it wise to encourage this?
I think you'll find that the countries experiencing high population growth rates don't provide paid maternity leave for parents
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Originally Posted by
seivad
I think you'll find that the countries experiencing high population growth rates don't provide paid maternity leave for parents
The UK is one of the most densely populated countries in the World.
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Originally Posted by
Ceam
Wish your mum had asked that question.
The UK was now so crowded at that time - anyway, once my Mum did give birth to me - she realised what a wonderful baby I was and what a huge value I would be to all mankind. She was so right!
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Originally Posted by
said
Good point, I have seen many young mothers with their children while concentrating more on their mobile phones than the children. Surely it is the child's continuance of family support that is of importance. I do agree that at least one parent should attempt to be with the child for the whole of pre-school. I understand that this may not be an option for professional people , but most have managed to support their children successfully regardless.
Surely the issue is far more detrimental to smaller businesses creating more problems to struggle with, as opposed to huge companies who are able to absorb and cover for staff absences?
The world's population is increasing at an alarming rate - is it wise to encourage this?
I was in a situation as a small buissness ,where I employed two members of staff,bith essential to my running of the buissness so I could get the work of the buissness done,one fell pregnant,the other on sick leave to look after her ailing husband.not their faults stuff happens .looked after both as best as could,but it nearly busted the buiss and took its toll on my health as well keeping things going,and observing the rules.big buiss can cope and absorb the regs,for a small trader these are hard to deal with especialy when it happen to all your staff at the same time.
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Originally Posted by
Ceam
Wish your mum had asked that question.
Love it! 😂
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