Corbyn talks Brexit with Barnier.

[Hamble]

I bet he promised 'free movement of workers' on top of remaining in the Customs Union.

A socialist leader undermining democracy!
The man is a disgrace.

[The PNP]

I bet he promised 'free movement of workers' on top of remaining in the Customs Union.

A socialist leader undermining democracy!
The man is a disgrace.

As long as he takes us out of the EU, should Labour win an election before Brexit happens, then what's the problem?

As for 'democracy', he's prepared to call a public vote on the final Brexit deal - now that really is democracy in action!

[Hamble]

As long as he takes us out of the EU, should Labour win an election before Brexit happens, then what's the problem?

As for 'democracy', he's prepared to call a public vote on the final Brexit deal - now that really is democracy in action!

The UK would be worse off to be out of the EU but remaining in the Customs Union with free movement.

Democracy was asked remain or leave the EU.
The result has to be abided by.
Calling another election to pacify those with voter regret or who did not vote first time around would be wasting public money.


Reality Check verdict: The estimated cost of the referendum is £142.4m, according to the written statement to Parliament by the Cabinet Office.

[justbecause]

I can’t understand why Barnier even wasting time talking to Corbyn. Surely he should be looking to thrash out a deal with the Government.

[silver fox]

I can’t understand why Barnier even wasting time talking to Corbyn. Surely he should be looking to thrash out a deal with the Government.

Maybe because he realises he's flogging a dead horse.

[silver fox]

I bet he promised 'free movement of workers' on top of remaining in the Customs Union.

A socialist leader undermining democracy!
The man is a disgrace.

What Corbyn is saying, should Parliament vote down whatever deal is finally arrived at, then the people should have the final say, now that is democracy, slavishly following the likes of Johnson, Gove, Mog etc; is virtually allowing dictators to take charge.

Why, why does everyone keep trotting out free movement, immigration etc;, everyone by now must be aware that even with the Eastern European countries in the EU, immigration from outside the EU is still greater than from within, anyone who thinks leaving the EU will magically stop immigration is deluded, what we will get is more immigration from Africa, Asia indeed anywhere where cheap labour can be found, is that what you want?

[titanic]

It's the scumbag employers who love cheap labour. How about getting British people who are on benefits into work, instead of importing workers.

[Hamble]

What Corbyn is saying, should Parliament vote down whatever deal is finally arrived at, then the people should have the final say, now that is democracy, slavishly following the likes of Johnson, Gove, Mog etc; is virtually allowing dictators to take charge.

Why, why does everyone keep trotting out free movement, immigration etc;, everyone by now must be aware that even with the Eastern European countries in the EU, immigration from outside the EU is still greater than from within, anyone who thinks leaving the EU will magically stop immigration is deluded, what we will get is more immigration from Africa, Asia indeed anywhere where cheap labour can be found, is that what you want?

EU migrants are free to come to the UK and look for work register for health and education.

Non EU migrants if arriving legally need a job or student place or visiting address for relatives.
They are entitled to emergency medical treatment only.





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Table ad 01, (Admissions tables)

2.1 Non-EEA national arrivals

Data in this section relate to the period 2017. This is the latest period for which data on non-EEA nationals arriving in the UK, broken down by nationality, are available.

Of the 20.0 million non-EEA nationals granted leave to enter the UK in 2017, 35% (7.1 million) were nationals of North American countries and a quarter (5.0 million) were nationals of South and East Asian countries.

The nationalities that were granted the highest numbers of leave to enter the UK in 2017 were:
•US citizens (5.73 million, up 25%)
•Indian (1.46 million, up 26%)
•Australian (1.43 million, up 22%)
•Chinese (1.39 million, up 29%)
•Canadian (1.32 million, up 20%)

These top 5 nationalities accounted for 57% of all non-EEA nationals arriving into the UK in 2017.
Change: latest year 2018

Percentage change



Total arrivals 14,000 14,600 15,300 16,300 20,000 +3,690 +23%

Work 156 163 171 181 156 -24 -13%
Study (excl short term) 199 193 185 180 187 +8 +4%
Short-term study3 263 280 306 251 229 -21 -9%
Family 23 22 22 20 21 +0.2 +1%
Visitors 8,690 9,160 9,440 10,100 13,200 +3,080 +30%
Persons in-transit 1,190 1,200 1,190 743 927 +184 +25%
Passengers returning2 3,130 3,240 3,510 4,310 4,790 +480 +11%
Other 351 398 462 478 468 -9 -2%

Passenger arrivals by non-EEA nationals, by purpose of journey, 2013 to 2017


Thousands

2013

2014

2015

2016

2017
True.
The number of people moving to the UK from EU countries was the lowest it has been for nearly four years in 2017.

But there was a rise in those coming from outside the EU, the Office for National Statistics said, with net migration the highest since 2011.

Overall net migration, the difference between the number of people coming to live in the UK for at least 12 months and those emigrating, was 282,000.

[Toodles McGinty]

I bet he promised 'free movement of workers' on top of remaining in the Customs Union.

A socialist leader undermining democracy!
The man is a disgrace.

That's quite a leap, considering we've no idea what they are talking about, beyond how the Labour party would handle Brexit should they get elected. That's like assuming everyone who voted leave did so because they are racists who just can't stand other Europeans coming into the country. That the whole enterprise was simply about immigration. That 'Leavers' just couldn't stand 'freedom of movement' any longer. Bit of a knee jerk reaction, in my opinion.

I'm going to assume that if we make some kind of deal to stay in the biggest single market in the world, which is to the benefit of the country, that the EU will want something in return. Despite Corbyn being a known eurosceptic, even he knows some concessions will have to be made.

But unless they make it public, or Labour get elected, we've no clue about the details of the meeting.

[Alikado]

I can’t understand why Barnier even wasting time talking to Corbyn. Surely he should be looking to thrash out a deal with the Government.

or realising that he's talking to a dead duck!

[Hamble]

That's quite a leap, considering we've no idea what they are talking about, beyond how the Labour party would handle Brexit should they get elected. That's like assuming everyone who voted leave did so because they are racists who just can't stand other Europeans coming into the country. That the whole enterprise was simply about immigration. That 'Leavers' just couldn't stand 'freedom of movement' any longer. Bit of a knee jerk reaction, in my opinion.

I'm going to assume that if we make some kind of deal to stay in the biggest single market in the world, which is to the benefit of the country, that the EU will want something in return. Despite Corbyn being a known eurosceptic, even he knows some concessions will have to be made.

But unless they make it public, or Labour get elected, we've no clue about the details of the meeting.

Without free movement and the Custom's Union plus no Irish hard border Corbyn and Labour could not Brexit.

I mean can you see Corbyn doing new trade deals or mixing with politician's handcuffed by diplomacy history and that little additive called 'cause and effect'?

[Toodles McGinty]

Without free movement and the Custom's Union plus no Irish hard border Corbyn and Labour could not Brexit.

Can May?

I mean can you see Corbyn doing new trade deals or mixing with politician's handcuffed by diplomacy history and that little additive called 'cause and effect'?

I can't see him doing trade deals, no. Unless there's a reshuffle, it'd be Barry Gardiner or Rebecca Long-Bailey. Ably assisted by career civil servants and business advisers, just like any other government. I don't think May or Liam Fox actually draw up trade deals, do you?

[said]

Considering that so many of those who wanted to remain in the EU without having a clue as to why, then what good would a referendum be on the outcome of any of the talks about Brexit? They just would not understand and would once again request for a second referendum.
True there will still be immigration, but not in the numbers that we have been receiving in the past few years. There has been cheap labour, but that will change since those requiring such labour were given huge CAP grants from the EU, and they will no longer receive these grants on the same scale. It is not the true British small to medium farmers who will notice much difference, it is the huge conglomerate, overseas owned farms in the UK who will. Since it is these farmers who have created high prices in produce, due to the waste and inefficiency, and have introduced a far lower standard of produce than the British once enjoyed - they will not receive much sympathy from anyone in the UK.
There will be far stricter rules applied to immigrants in the future - which we have been unable to apply while in the EU.

[said]

There are stricter Company laws on trading and taxes coming into force now, which was inevitable due to the large number of loopholes that many overseas 'business' people have been keen to take advantage of - and there will be even fewer of non EU immigrants coming over. A huge number of illegal overseas traders have been forced to close their businesses, and this is continuing on a regular basis.

[said]

I do not know of any Government people being experienced in trading and business - even their 'advisers' appear to be inept. There does not appear to have been one good business concept arising from any Government/Council circles. Trump may make a lousy civil servant - but he knows business!