Brexit and the DUP

[Albion102]

Give northern Ireland back to Ireland. Those living there who want to be part of the UK (Northern Ireland isn't British) can come and live on the mainland or a Scottish island.

Definitely prefer them to be somewhere other than Merseyside

[Ceam]

Give northern Ireland back to Ireland. Those living there who want to be part of the UK (Northern Ireland isn't British) can come and live on the mainland or a Scottish island.

Such any easy solution when it doesn't affect you isn't it?



Why don't we just become the united states of Europe and have Berlin as our capital? If you don't like it you could move to Australia or the USA.

[salus.populi]

Such any easy solution when it doesn't affect you isn't it?



Why don't we just become the united states of Europe and have Berlin as our capital? If you don't like it you could move to Australia or the USA.

German competence and efficiency sounds a lot better than the current bunch of fools running the country. And unity is preferable to isolation.
However if I wanted to be Australian or American then i probably would want to move there so presumably those in Northern Irleand who consider themselves British when they aren't surely wouldn't object to moving to Britain.

[Ceam]

German competence and efficiency sounds a lot better than the current bunch of fools running the country. And unity is preferable to isolation.
However if I wanted to be Australian or American then i probably would want to move there so presumably those in Northern Irleand who consider themselves British when they aren't surely wouldn't object to moving to Britain.

Funny, I'm sure the IRA used to say something similar.



Not sure where we will put the 1.8 million people from northern Ireland, But I guess here is as good a place as any.

"German competence and efficiency sounds a lot better than the current bunch of fools running the country. And unity is preferable to isolation."

Maybe we could start with trade agreements and some like minded laws. Oh hold on......

[salus.populi]

Maybe we could start with trade agreements and some like minded laws. Oh hold on......

Well, quite. It would solve the Irish border issue after all.

[Ceam]

Well, quite. It would solve the Irish border issue after all.

Shame that's what we are walking away from then isn't it?

[salus.populi]

Shame that's what we are walking away from then isn't it?

Yes I agree.

[Albion102]

Funny, I'm sure the IRA used to say something similar.

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Don't forget that the majority of Irish republicans didn't support the IRA. You have to separate the political objective of Irish self-determinism from the methods of the terrorists, intellectually at least. Ireland makes much more sense as a single entity (a trite comparison is the fantastic rugby team vs the plucky minnows that represent the two bits of Ireland at soccer). The Irish Republic is to all intents and purposes a secular and liberal state in which protestants should feel comfortable.

[Ceam]

Don't forget that the majority of Irish republicans didn't support the IRA. You have to separate the political objective of Irish self-determinism from the methods of the terrorists, intellectually at least. Ireland makes much more sense as a single entity (a trite comparison is the fantastic rugby team vs the plucky minnows that represent the two bits of Ireland at soccer). The Irish Republic is to all intents and purposes a secular and liberal state in which protestants should feel comfortable.

Lets get rid of Wales and Scotland, it makes much more sense as one country. I'm fairly sure every civil war started with a very similar sentence.

[silver fox]

It would appear that some sort of deal, compromise has been reached on the first steps, must admit am somewhat intrigued as to how no border in Ireland and no border between the island of Ireland and the UK, is going to function, this must mean in effect no border between the EU and the UK, or am I missing something?

Not objecting to this, just wondering how it will actually work.

[Ceam]

It would appear that some sort of deal, compromise has been reached on the first steps, must admit am somewhat intrigued as to how no border in Ireland and no border between the island of Ireland and the UK, is going to function, this must mean in effect no border between the EU and the UK, or am I missing something?

Not objecting to this, just wondering how it will actually work.

Well it won't will it, but we can pretend for now it will so we can get to the next stage.