Australia to ban new migrants from Sydney and Melbourne.

[Hamble]

"The policy is designed to counter population growth in the two largest cities and alleviate pressure on schools, healthcare, public transport and housing."


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...urne-bvgl39k2g

Would this work for London and Manchester as a temporary measure?

[*concerned*]

More as a permanent measure would be more logical.

On a similar note, why have LOTS of training/educational/admin centres in central London, when they could easily be located elsewhere, lets face it most of the staff and users of those places have to move into the area, so have to move or face a long daily commute anyway!

[Albion102]

The cost of running a business in London means that there really are relatively few organisations that don't need to be there.

There is relatively little scope for relocation of educational institutions, most of the many universities in London cater mostly for Londoners. The big internationally renowned institutions would not longer be London based, and people come to them because they are in London. There are already very good Universities in virtually all provincial cities - if people don't want to study in London, they can go to Leeds or Manchester.

[said]

Many businesses in the City choose to have a London address for prestige.

Many of the Universities in London now cater for less qualified students.

[said]

"The policy is designed to counter population growth in the two largest cities and alleviate pressure on schools, healthcare, public transport and housing."


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...urne-bvgl39k2g

Would this work for London and Manchester as a temporary measure?

I wish we could ban immigrants from all over the UK, even as a temporary measure - so that we could regain our own national status in our own country, re-develop social neighbourhoods, bring our educational establishments up to a decent level again, reduce the queues in NHS hospitals and clinics, and be able to speak and be understood in English wherever you go in the UK.

[The PNP]

I wish we could ban immigrants from all over the UK, even as a temporary measure - so that we could regain our own national status in our own country, re-develop social neighbourhoods, bring our educational establishments up to a decent level again, reduce the queues in NHS hospitals and clinics, and be able to speak and be understood in English wherever you go in the UK.

With the country set to welcome more non-EU immigration after Brexit, ethnic diversity can only increase in the UK......

[cally800]

I wish we could ban immigrants from all over the UK, even as a temporary measure - so that we could regain our own national status in our own country, re-develop social neighbourhoods, bring our educational establishments up to a decent level again, reduce the queues in NHS hospitals and clinics, and be able to speak and be understood in English wherever you go in the UK.

how do you suppose we reduce the queues in hospitals without all those damn immigrant doctors and nurses?

[said]

With the country set to welcome more non-EU immigration after Brexit, ethnic diversity can only increase in the UK......

There are now far fewer EU immigrants travelling anywhere in Europe. As for Poland, the economy is higher than it was before and the Polish people do not like the fact that so many immigrants have entered Poland in their absence. Many have already returned back having become disillusioned with the low pay jobs available. Others are trapped having purchased an affordable house on part buy, part rent scheme and would stand to lose out if they did not keep up on the payments. There is no reason to travel to the UK since the cost of living is far higher than many areas in the EU. For those outside of the EU, the attraction was tax loopholes which have now, or are in the process of being dealt with - that and of course, the weather.
Entry requirements for all immigrants will be far higher than ever before.

[said]

how do you suppose we reduce the queues in hospitals without all those damn immigrant doctors and nurses?

The NHS turned down 80,000 British nursing staff in favour of overseas labour. The Medical University courses in the UK are full every year - why not employ British staff who are higher qualified to deal with British patients?

Among overseas staff applying for places with the NHS, 72% could not pass the required standards - as opposed to only 5% of British applicants who did not pass. Malpractice claims against the NHS have soared in the past twenty years.

In India and Pakistan, having the title of Dr. in the medical profession lifts a person from a lower cast to a higher cast. Many people from these nations seek only personal gratification not to benefit potential patients. There has been several instances of Medical papers being bought illegally from overseas medical training establishments - a few practitioners with such papers have been found in the NHS.


The costs are far higher than the benefits received - make the NHS more efficient with British trained staff.

[Hamble]

I wish we could ban immigrants from all over the UK, even as a temporary measure - so that we could regain our own national status in our own country, re-develop social neighbourhoods, bring our educational establishments up to a decent level again, reduce the queues in NHS hospitals and clinics, and be able to speak and be understood in English wherever you go in the UK.

I think the idea is to encourage workers to consider less populated areas and benefit from less stretched public resources.

[silver fox]

With the country set to welcome more non-EU immigration after Brexit, ethnic diversity can only increase in the UK......

Don't say that, spoils the illusion (delusion?) of so many who seem to think that Brexit will stop or drastically cut immigration, it won't, what will happen (for better or worse) we will have an increase in immigrants whose laws, rules, culture and customs are totally alien to this country.

[Nick2]

"The policy is designed to counter population growth in the two largest cities and alleviate pressure on schools, healthcare, public transport and housing."


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...urne-bvgl39k2g

Would this work for London and Manchester as a temporary measure?

Dont believe everything you read in the papers. This idea was floated by Scott Morrison the Prime Minister, during a visit to Tasmania this week. This notion stems from a suggestion that Tasmania should increase its population from a fairly static 500K, or thereabouts. But only as improvements in the infrastructure will allow. That will take a long time. The Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews has stated quite categorically that it won't happen there, saying "we are not in the business of telling people, immigrants or others, where they can or cannot live". Other state premiers have offered similar opinions.

[silver fox]

The cost of running a business in London means that there really are relatively few organisations that don't need to be there.

There is relatively little scope for relocation of educational institutions, most of the many universities in London cater mostly for Londoners. The big internationally renowned institutions would not longer be London based, and people come to them because they are in London. There are already very good Universities in virtually all provincial cities - if people don't want to study in London, they can go to Leeds or Manchester.

The real problem is parliament and governments are far too Londoncentric, London gets disproportionate investment both public and private this in turn attracts business and jobs, plus of course grossly inflates the cost of living in London.

There is as much if not more infrastructure investment in London, as in the rest of the country put together.

[Hamble]

Dont believe everything you read in the papers. This idea was floated by Scott Morrison the Prime Minister, during a visit to Tasmania this week. This notion stems from a suggestion that Tasmania should increase its population from a fairly static 500K, or thereabouts. But only as improvements in the infrastructure will allow. That will take a long time. The Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews has stated quite categorically that it won't happen there, saying "we are not in the business of telling people, immigrants or others, where they can or cannot live". Other state premiers have offered similar opinions.

Thank you.
Sounded like a good idea practically.

In my job I come across migrants whose first address in the UK was
London or the South.
The housing and job situation usually prompts a move North.

[Ceam]

The NHS turned down 80,000 British nursing staff in favour of overseas labour. The Medical University courses in the UK are full every year - why not employ British staff who are higher qualified to deal with British patients?

And why is that do you think?