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Are medical staff checked out thoroughly
In the news today, there is a report of an investigation of a doctor who had been issuing opiate medication even when there was no requirement for it. Between 1989 and 2000, over six hundreds patients under her care in the hospital died.
In a separate report, a Hungarian Doctor practising in the UK, did not admit to having HIV because he thought he would be persecuted in Hungary for being gay and he kept his associations to himself.
Some while ago, it was discovered that a certain group of Doctor's were not fit to practice in the UK, even though they had been doing so for a number of years. It was found that they had 'bought' their medical certification while in their own country.
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They are though there is not much one can do about some medical staff who fail in duty of care.
Usually it is provoked by intolerable stress or the ramifications of addiction.
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Fantastic how you turn a story that is about a British born, British trained, white middle aged and middle class doctor - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-pension.html into a story about foreign doctors. I seem to remember that Shipman was pretty Briitish too.
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Medical Staff have always killed.
Dr's being top of the list.
In the USA the highest rate of suicide in men is among medics an estimated 300-400 each year more than twice the rate of the non medic population.
The UK does not have any recent figures on specific medic mortality by suicide other than (as with all other male at risk by age and profession groups) the figure has declined in recent years from an all time high.
This is good if professional body intervention and support in recent years has worked.
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
Medical Staff have always killed.
Dr's being top of the list.
In the USA the highest rate of suicide in men is among medics an estimated 300-400 each year more than twice the rate of the non medic population.
The UK does not have any recent figures on specific medic mortality by suicide other than (as with all other male at risk by age and profession groups) the figure has declined in recent years from an all time high.
This is good if professional body intervention and support in recent years has worked.
We aren't talking about Doctors topping themselves we are talking about Doctors topping their patients. Remember the nice Dr Shipman?
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Originally Posted by
Albion102
Fantastic how you turn a story that is about a British born, British trained, white middle aged and middle class doctor -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-pension.html into a story about foreign doctors. I seem to remember that Shipman was pretty Briitish too.
Only going by the media reports that have been issued. Obviously, British people are going to know more about their own people and the standards they have to maintain - but far less is known about the standards abroad.
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
Medical Staff have always killed.
Dr's being top of the list.
In the USA the highest rate of suicide in men is among medics an estimated 300-400 each year more than twice the rate of the non medic population.
The UK does not have any recent figures on specific medic mortality by suicide other than (as with all other male at risk by age and profession groups) the figure has declined in recent years from an all time high.
This is good if professional body intervention and support in recent years has worked.
While suicide in the UK is the most common reason for deaths.
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Originally Posted by
Alikado
We aren't talking about Doctors topping themselves we are talking about Doctors topping their patients. Remember the nice Dr Shipman?
The drug addict who killed himself?
Yes of course.
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Originally Posted by
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While suicide in the UK is the most common reason for deaths.
I thought it was Dementia and Alzheimer Disease?
The suicide rate has gone down.
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The NHS should be immune from being sued ,they do there
up most best.
As with every other place people do make mistakes plus you get
what you pay for.
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I worked inside the GMC during Shipman;s trial and the inquiry conducted by Dame Janet Smith.
One of its findings was that once a doctor has qualified there was really no monitoring of performance for the rest of his career.
Shipman was acting with evil, but if your doctor is incompetent or doesn't bother to keep himself up to date, there can be equal harm.
She decided they should be appraised, at least every 5 years ( I think). Three years later the various professional bodies and the GMC had still not sorted out which of them would run an appraisal system...
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
The drug addict who killed himself?
Yes of course.
The mass murderer who topped himself in jail.
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Originally Posted by
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Only going by the media reports that have been issued. Obviously, British people are going to know more about their own people and the standards they have to maintain - but far less is known about the standards abroad.
These foreign doctors don't just turn up with a dogeared bit of paper and say this says I'm a doctor gizza a job.
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Originally Posted by
Alikado
These foreign doctors don't just turn up with a dogeared bit of paper and say this says I'm a doctor gizza a job.
The GMC is there to ensure all doctors in the UK have training at least equivalent to ours and a reasonable command of English. However if an irresponsible Trust or practice does not check with the GMC it could still happen.
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Originally Posted by
Alikado
These foreign doctors don't just turn up with a dogeared bit of paper and say this says I'm a doctor gizza a job.
In these modern times, employers are so terrified of being accused of discrimination, racist, sexist or whatever - it would be highly possible for an employer to concentrate on this aspect alone as opposed to making a thorough check into an applicants background. Do the NHS still carry out this process themselves or is the task of employing staff with a non medically trained agency now?
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