Another CON trick

[Little Londoner]

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Calami...YuT5vIgWf.html

Who would have thought these upright pillars of society could be so selective in their vindictiveness.
You can always tell a Tory but you can't tell them much.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

Does this surprise anyone?

[Hamble]

If a constituency elects a Tory M.P they are probably not high on the list of areas with fluctuating employment and high immigration needing
a less complicated income support system than the one left by Labour.

[Hamble]

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

Does this surprise anyone?[/QUOTE]

No his job was a waste of time.

When will it ever be unfair to invite migrants into the UK to work in low paid jobs and live in mean houses in an already poor area of unemployment and expect social mobility to increase?


Alan Milburn?


A company owned by former Labour health secretary Alan Milburn recorded a £663,000 increase in profit last year, with the income generated primarily from a string of consultancy roles to the private healthcare sector.

Accounts filed with Companies House show that AM Strategy Ltd generated the income in 2013-14 at a time when Milburn worked as a senior adviser to Bridgepoint Capital, owners of one of the UK’s largest private companies delivering NHS healthcare, as well as working with PricewaterhouseCoopers, Lloyds Pharmacy and others.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ate-healthcare

[said]

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Calami...YuT5vIgWf.html

Who would have thought these upright pillars of society could be so selective in their vindictiveness.
You can always tell a Tory but you can't tell them much.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

Does this surprise anyone?

Would be wiser to choose more than one source for information.

[Little Londoner]

Would be wiser to choose more than one source for information.

You don't want me to fill a full page do you, are you saying that the number of papers that have reported the withholding of high ranking Tory politicians constituencies when it come to rolling out UC is a lie it is a National disgrace after all "we are ALL in this together". If plebs in other constituencies are getting hammered let the Tory Voters get a taste too or are they too genteel to claim these common benefits.
Believe me where there is money to be had Tories will be pushing cripples out of the way.

[gazaprop]

You don't want me to fill a full page do you, are you saying that the number of papers that have reported the withholding of high ranking Tory politicians constituencies when it come to rolling out UC is a lie it is a National disgrace after all "we are ALL in this together". If plebs in other constituencies are getting hammered let the Tory Voters get a taste too or are they too genteel to claim these common benefits.
Believe me where there is money to be had Tories will be pushing cripples out of the way.

Re your last comment - as will Labour, the Liberals or any of the 'political elite' who have been shown to have their own interests first and last in any list of priorities.

[Ceam]

I don't think it's the credit itself that is the issue is it? More the fact people are having to wait months to get it. Which is completely unacceptable.
These are people that are quite often on the cusp of disaster. 6-8 weeks plus is completely unacceptable as a time to wait.

[silver fox]

I don't think it's the credit itself that is the issue is it? More the fact people are having to wait months to get it. Which is completely unacceptable.
These are people that are quite often on the cusp of disaster. 6-8 weeks plus is completely unacceptable as a time to wait.

The 6 weeks wait is built into the system, just imagine every roll out a bunch of people vanish from the claim register and don't get any money, the savings and the "adjustment" of the numbers on benefit look good on a balance sheet, but hide the misery created.

We are told that funding is available for those in need during the waiting period, trouble is by the time anyone can apply and receive that funding the UV has started and they are no longer eligible.

Nothing wrong with a simpler benefit system all round, but to build in a deliberate gap is as usual cynical Toryism.

The other trick in this, is that under existing benefits, amounts are calculated weekly and paid usually 4 weekly, the new UV is calculated on a calendar monthly basis and can catch people out in a few ways, particularly those working/claiming
and paid weekly.

[Hamble]

The 6 weeks wait is built into the system, just imagine every roll out a bunch of people vanish from the claim register and don't get any money, the savings and the "adjustment" of the numbers on benefit look good on a balance sheet, but hide the misery created.

We are told that funding is available for those in need during the waiting period, trouble is by the time anyone can apply and receive that funding the UV has started and they are no longer eligible.

Nothing wrong with a simpler benefit system all round, but to build in a deliberate gap is as usual cynical Toryism.



The other trick in this, is that under existing benefits, amounts are calculated weekly and paid usually 4 weekly, the new UV is calculated on a calendar monthly basis and can catch people out in a few ways, particularly those working/claiming
and paid weekly.

Not a trick or cynicism.

Payments have changed from weekly to monthly.
Universal Credit departments are only open 4 days over the 2 week holiday.

[silver fox]

Not a trick or cynicism.

Payments have changed from weekly to monthly.
Universal Credit departments are only open 4 days over the 2 week holiday.

You're trying to tell me that none of these "brilliant" economists couldn't see the problems created by this switch, none of these great minds could see that for a weekly paid worker there would always be a time when that worker received 5 wages, which immediately screwed up the benefits for that month.

I well remember when I moved from weekly paid to a monthly salary and I was not starting from a position of bare minimum earnings far from it, plus of course I only had to manage 3 weeks before my first salary appeared and that salary did not vary no matter how many weekends there were in the month.

Either the planners of this scheme are incredibly stupid, or knew full well the problems it would create and simply didn't care, take your pick.

[rare-pepe999]

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Calami...YuT5vIgWf.html

Who would have thought these upright pillars of society could be so selective in their vindictiveness.
You can always tell a Tory but you can't tell them much.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

Does this surprise anyone?

omg some of the money that gets stolen at gun point from people in the form of taxes wont be given away as quickly as usual. what a shame.