8th March. Women’s day

[shippy]

To my fellow women posters, I wish you all a very Peaceful and Happy
International women’s day..bless.

[Hamble]

Thank you Shippy.

To all successful women.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm-LBINotnw

[grassroots]

To my fellow women posters, I wish you all a very Peaceful and Happy
International women’s day..bless.

Hear, hear.

[Sue Ellen]

Thank you Shippy. Best wishes to all women, successful or not. (what exactly describes ‘success in women’ Hamble?)

[Ceam]

When's men's day?

[said]

Thank you Shippy. Best wishes to all women, successful or not. (what exactly describes ‘success in women’ Hamble?)

Yes, my query too? How do you class a successful woman? Is that a woman who chooses a career over that of rearing children? Is it a woman who chooses to raise a family at the cost of her career?

[Albion102]

Yes, my query too? How do you class a successful woman? Is that a woman who chooses a career over that of rearing children? Is it a woman who chooses to raise a family at the cost of her career?

It's somebody who does both https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Horlick

[Nick2]

It's somebody who does both https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Horlick

But Nicola Horlick didn't do it on her own, did she?? She was/is wealthy enough to employ full time help. Hardly the average mother then!

[Hamble]

Thank you Shippy. Best wishes to all women, successful or not. (what exactly describes ‘success in women’ Hamble?)

In my post it was tongue in cheek with the link.


Otherwise....
A successful woman like a successful man does the job and makes a difference.
Whether it be quietly or in the public eye those they leave behind
will remember and hold their example.

[Hamble]

Yes, my query too? How do you class a successful woman? Is that a woman who chooses a career over that of rearing children? Is it a woman who chooses to raise a family at the cost of her career?

That needs a holistic measurement.

A woman who stays at home to raise her family resenting the interruption to her career can hardly be as successful as one without resentment.

[Albion102]

But Nicola Horlick didn't do it on her own, did she?? She was/is wealthy enough to employ full time help. Hardly the average mother then!

I never said she was an average mother, more an example of what can be achieved. She had the money to do that because she earned it. People have a range of choices and opportunities.

I've always been with career women. I can't imagine what it is like to come home to somebody who has spent all day looking after kids and no real idea of what a workplace is like. The dynamic of me stressing about deadlines, sales pitches and cashflow whilst she is worrying about Tanya looking at her a bit funny at Pilates. That would drive me mad. I know a couple with that dynamic (despite her being an intelligent university educated woman), and she gets frequent visits from a plumber and I suspect he has a secretary on the go.

[said]

In my post it was tongue in cheek with the link.


Otherwise....
A successful woman like a successful man does the job and makes a difference.
Whether it be quietly or in the public eye those they leave behind
will remember and hold their example.

My idea of a successful person, man or woman, is someone who is truly happy in all that they do.

Today, more women are being placed in roles to satisfy PC, they are not given the position simply because of their talents. There are roles that men are more suited to and there are roles that women are suited to. A woman can demand equal pay to do a certain job - but if that woman has to turn to her male counterpart and ask him to lift something heavy for her - then she is incapable of doing equal tasks. As the roles of male and female in employment become more indistinct, so do the social roles. Men no longer feel that they need to 'protect' a woman, they no longer feel responsible for her yet who would be expected to act if the woman is threatened in some way?

No - I am not a chauvinist. I believe that people should undertake the jobs that they are biologically suited to - not what the media claims they are entitled to. For example, line up a number of men and women to run a race - that is equality. To force both men and women to cross the finishing line at the same time is tyranny - since they both run at a different pace due to their biological composition.

Society is being forced to follow certain channels in life - they are not being allowed to evolve naturally.

[Hamble]

My idea of a successful person, man or woman, is someone who is truly happy in all that they do.

Today, more women are being placed in roles to satisfy PC, they are not given the position simply because of their talents. There are roles that men are more suited to and there are roles that women are suited to. A woman can demand equal pay to do a certain job - but if that woman has to turn to her male counterpart and ask him to lift something heavy for her - then she is incapable of doing equal tasks. As the roles of male and female in employment become more indistinct, so do the social roles. Men no longer feel that they need to 'protect' a woman, they no longer feel responsible for her yet who would be expected to act if the woman is threatened in some way?

No - I am not a chauvinist. I believe that people should undertake the jobs that they are biologically suited to - not what the media claims they are entitled to.

Society is being forced to follow certain channels in life - they are not being allowed to evolve naturally.

Quotarism.
Employing women or ethnic minority to suit a political agenda.

Some of the Labour women MP's are frankly embarrassing on QT.

This happened disastrously with women G.ps years ago.
Great idea to have a woman G.P in every family practice.

Years on the result is women have children have to job share.
Twice as many Gp's are needed.
Cost of training doubles.
If a woman G.p leaves replacing by locum heavily reflects on cost.

Locum doctors often refuse to do certain work carried out by other
partners.

[gazaprop]

Devil's advocate question here -

A man decides that fatherhood is not for him and decides not to have children, similarly his female colleague makes the same decision.
In the same company another man and woman decide that being parents is just what they want and have children with their respective partners.
All four are equally qualified in their field.

Five years down the line the two who had children return to the company and complain they are not being paid the same as the two who haven't been away.
The two who haven't been away point to the 5 years extra experience in the role and object to them being paid the same.

Who is right?

[Albion102]

Who is right?

By and large, in business, your career is forged in the first ten years. If you've not made some pretty big strides by your mid-30s, you are not going to make it. Some of the most successful people I know were semi-retired by their mid-40s, having made their loot and standing back for those with the energy to continue.

If you take five years out to sing nursery rhymes, do pilates and drink coffee with the yummies then you'll miss that particular boat.

On the other hand, my ex only took up her career once the (four) kids were through that stage and made it to the top of the teaching profession in her late forties. I'm not sure you can make rules, it depends upon the sort of job. If you are working in a lower/middle job in the public sector, there will be a difference exactly relating to the number of progression/spinal points missed in the five years.