8th March. Women’s day

[shippy]

Women's day is celebrating the emancipation of the female. For so many years,women were treated as possessions by their partners or husbands.

I remember my own mother wasn't a partner in a joint bank account with my father. No writing cheques...my father was in complete control and my mother would have to ask him for her expenses.

Their home was written only in my fathers name, as he was the ״bread winner"...times have changed for the better for women I'm glad to say.

Women are now allowed to go into any career in the work force. Pilots,master mariners. Etc etc. this is one of the many reasons to celebrate ...

[salus.populi]

When's men's day?

19th November every year.
If you were that bothered about there being one then surely you'd know.

[salus.populi]

Devil's advocate question here -

A man decides that fatherhood is not for him and decides not to have children, similarly his female colleague makes the same decision.
In the same company another man and woman decide that being parents is just what they want and have children with their respective partners.
All four are equally qualified in their field.

Five years down the line the two who had children return to the company and complain they are not being paid the same as the two who haven't been away.
The two who haven't been away point to the 5 years extra experience in the role and object to them being paid the same.

Who is right?

I suppose that depends on the job and whether 5 years extra experience actually makes a significant difference to the ability to do it.

[said]

Devil's advocate question here -

A man decides that fatherhood is not for him and decides not to have children, similarly his female colleague makes the same decision.
In the same company another man and woman decide that being parents is just what they want and have children with their respective partners.
All four are equally qualified in their field.

Five years down the line the two who had children return to the company and complain they are not being paid the same as the two who haven't been away.
The two who haven't been away point to the 5 years extra experience in the role and object to them being paid the same.

Who is right?

I would side with the pair who had not taken time off. Changes in the workplace occur fast and it is necessary to keep up with them. There may also be changes in hierarchy of the company and also continuance of communication with clientele. While the pair have taken time off to do what they wanted as they wished - the pair who remained were not given the same benefit. (I am now putting my hands over my ears before the backlash!)

[said]

19th November every year.
If you were that bothered about there being one then surely you'd know.

Where did that come from?

[seivad]

I would side with the pair who had not taken time off. Changes in the workplace occur fast and it is necessary to keep up with them. There may also be changes in hierarchy of the company and also continuance of communication with clientele. While the pair have taken time off to do what they wanted as they wished - the pair who remained were not given the same benefit. (I am now putting my hands over my ears before the backlash!)

I don't think you've read the question correctly.

Two colleagues decided not to have childen, therefore time off isn't an option.

[Hamble]

On the other hand....

Men used to feel an enormous burden knowing that traditionally they were the 'breadwinner.'

It did have cultural repercussions.
Women's education was not seen as valuable.

In the 1960's/70's My father considered it shameful or less mannish if a wife HAD to go out to work.