50 Million to promote British integration.

[Hamble]

Could this money be put to better use?

[said]

Could this money be put to better use?

Yes. Deportations!

[Hamble]

Yes. Deportations!

Don't be such an arsicle.

I am a great believer in community work particularly voluntary.
Teaching English as a 2nd language could be done within the community.

Paying ethnic and none ethnic communities to get to know each other?
What's that all about?

[seivad]

Yes. Deportations!

Maybe we should send you back to North Korea.

[said]

Maybe we should send you back to North Korea.

No!Oh No! Don't do that! I managed to get asylum in the UK because the barber's in North Korea were going to crucify my hair!

[daviebaby]

Could this money be put to better use?

I agree, a total waste of Public money!

[Hamble]

I agree, a total waste of Public money!

My thoughts too.


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"Bradford, Blackburn, Peterborough, Walsall and London’s Waltham Forest will seek to adopt new integration plans to deal with problems of segregation.

As part of the government's Integrated Communities Strategy, which will see £50 million of funding invested in schemes to improve community relations over the next two years, the five areas have been selected for special help to stop the divide in local communities following a bidding process.

Arguing that too many politicians have ‘refused to deal with the integration challenges we face head on’, Communities Secretary Sajid Javid will use the strategy to create extra support for English language classes and improve the economic opportunities for people - particularly women - in segregated communities.

Javid said: "Britain can rightly claim to be one of the most successful diverse societies in the world. But we cannot ignore the fact that in too many parts of our country, communities are divided, preventing people from taking full advantage of the opportunities that living in modern Britain offers.

"Successive governments have refused to deal with the integration challenges we face head on, preferring to let people muddle along and live isolated and separated lives. We will put an end to this through our new strategy which will create a country that works for everyone, whatever their background and wherever they come from. Integration challenges are not uniform throughout the country, with different areas and communities having varying needs."

Dame Louise Casey, who wrote the Casey Review in 2016 warning against segregation and social exclusion, has recently urged the government to set a date for everyone in the UK to speak English."

http://www.governmentbusiness.co.uk/...egration-plans


The grants may be well meaning.
One spokes person said the people targeted are amongst the poorest in England.
Forcing women to learn English will not prevent isolation and poverty(through non work) if their religion and culture pulls in the opposite direction.

The majority of immigrants coming to the UK over decades have settled in the poorest parts of towns in the lowest paid jobs.
As their fortunes increase and (bilingual) British born children grow up they move to other areas leaving the cycle to continue for the next generation of immigrants.

I think the money would be better spent on the young in education
in those deprived areas to benefit all children.
Children from English as a 2nd language home have a slower start
When they are taught alongside non immigrant children in areas of high deprivation more resources and teaching ratio is needed.

It is the children who go home and teach their parents English and British values.

[Albion102]

I sort of agree with Hamble, that education delivered properly will sort these issues out in a generation. Most immigrants are quite aspirational.

One of my team is a case in point, his parents were Pakistani immigrants, mother still barely speaks English, father was a farmer. Strong work ethic, the three sons all have professional jobs, his wife, an arranged marriage, is a hospital doctor. Their children speak only English and expect to marry a person of their choosing, study at University and eat at McDonalds. Their social life revolves around the mosque and the extended family.

I worry as much about isolated (whether physically or socially) white working class communities such as the much vaunted "isolated coastal communities". Some of these families suffer from generations of joblessness and failure to benefit from education. That thin, pale young man, in a grey tracksuit and baseball cap with a barely comprehensible urban accident who can barely fill in the forms he needs to claim his benefits, will almost certainly be made less welcome in Southport (or Colchester) than an obviously muslim man or woman.

[Hamble]

I sort of agree with Hamble, that education delivered properly will sort these issues out in a generation. Most immigrants are quite aspirational.

One of my team is a case in point, his parents were Pakistani immigrants, mother still barely speaks English, father was a farmer. Strong work ethic, the three sons all have professional jobs, his wife, an arranged marriage, is a hospital doctor. Their children speak only English and expect to marry a person of their choosing, study at University and eat at McDonalds. Their social life revolves around the mosque and the extended family.

I worry as much about isolated (whether physically or socially) white working class communities such as the much vaunted "isolated coastal communities". Some of these families suffer from generations of joblessness and failure to benefit from education. That thin, pale young man, in a grey tracksuit and baseball cap with a barely comprehensible urban accident who can barely fill in the forms he needs to claim his benefits, will almost certainly be made less welcome in Southport (or Colchester) than an obviously muslim man or woman.

Putting the money into infant schools in the most deprived areas would equally benefit non immigrant family's.
All the schools I'm my area are oversubscribed due to influx and birth
boom.

It would halt the expansion of single ethnic cluster areas increasing if they had good schools and more resources.

The problem (at the moment)does not affect high school age as children of immigrants then become bilingual and high achieving by comparison.

High School children's parents are also prepared for their children to travel to school.
Infant children of immigrant parents cluster in walking distance of schools and local shops as they lack transport often have younger children.
Despite a little English they cannot read it.
Often the sole carer for the children whilst husband works long hours.
And of course the low cost rental housing are clustered in certain areas.